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Old December 25th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #1
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Default XRC8 Free-spool Fix

Any one who owns a Smittybuilt winch is familiar with the hard free spool on these things. Great winch... crazy hard to free spool especially when cold.

Well, I was tired of it so this is what I did:

- Removed the drivers side plate with the engage/free-spool lever on it.
- removed all three planetary gear sets and the free spool sleeve
- used mineral spirits and a tooth brush to clean off all the thick, nasty honey grease.
- Wiped out the inside of the housing and rinsed everything off with brake cleaner.
- dried, packed and reassembled everything with high quality Shell Red Retinax LX2 grease.

Huge difference. The winch now free spools a lot easier.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 05:44 PM   #2
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I sent this info to a guy I know with one. Thanks.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 06:33 PM   #3
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sounds good I will do this to mine shortly. thanks
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Old December 25th, 2009, 06:46 PM   #4
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hmmm ive noticed it on mine but never enough to do anything about it..
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Old December 25th, 2009, 07:36 PM   #5
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Is the Smittybuilt the same as a T-max? My T-max sucks at freespooling.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 08:06 PM   #6
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so how easy is it to do? any problems with any parts falling out and not knowing where they came from or anything like that. cant find a diagram of it so i know what is all there. just want to make sure i dont lose anything like that. thanks
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Old December 25th, 2009, 08:13 PM   #7
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Is the Smittybuilt the same as a T-max? My T-max sucks at freespooling.
I wanna say that t-max are the ones making them now.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 08:27 PM   #8
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Is the Smittybuilt the same as a T-max? My T-max sucks at freespooling.
Same exact winch. In fact, tmax was cast into the metal on the inside of the cover plate.

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so how easy is it to do? any problems with any parts falling out and not knowing where they came from or anything like that. cant find a diagram of it so i know what is all there. just want to make sure i don't lose anything like that. thanks
It was a piece of cake, no tiny parts, only 2 spacers and one gear are loose, everything else is held together in the three planetary gear assemblies. I just had the top of a paper box and I laid the pieces down as they came out, then washed one piece at a time. It really can only go back together one way.

I was going to take some pictures, but my hands were covered in grease from start to finish....
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Old December 26th, 2009, 06:40 AM   #9
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thanks and i understand about the pics. no biggie. i had that side apart when the handle for the free spool wouldnt move. had to fix that never thought about fixing this then. I will try to get pics when i do mine.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 10:33 AM   #10
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your right it does say tmax how about that. also it was pretty easy to take apart. I got it all cleaned up now I will try to get pics if i remember to take the camera out there and clean it up better then grease it all up. one more question.

How much grease did you stuff in there?
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thanks and i understand about the pics. no biggie. i had that side apart when the handle for the free spool wouldnt move. had to fix that never thought about fixing this then. I will try to get pics when i do mine.
What was the problem with your lever? Mine has been stuck in gear since the 3rd time I used it.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:33 PM   #12
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well there was two things that went bad. first there is a spring and ball that keeps the lever in position the ball was rusty so i had to clean it up and put some grease on it works fine now. then there is a small pin that holds the lever in the cover and stops it from going to far it was bent. I straightened it out and works fine now. I have heard of people taking a pin punch that fits in the lever and use that instead of the softer pin that is there. I will take some pics of what i am talking about when i get back out to the garage and work on it more tonight or tomorrow.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 12:50 PM   #13
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My old ramsey was the same also, much better now.
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here are a few pictures of the lever and what i just did to fix it. as you can see the pin is bent again so i took a drill bit that fits it and cut it to length and put that in there. also I cleaned the spring and ball up and the holes in the lever that the ball sits in. put a little grease on the ball and the tip of the spring and put it back together. hope this helps ya. I cleaned the gears out and regreased them works alot better now. thanks for the info.

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thanx , thats a big help!
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How much grease did you stuff in there?
I used half a regular size tube of grease packing all the gears. Maybe a little more.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #17
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good idea will have to try this as mine if a pain in the dick to free spool. i also had to grease the ball and spring after two time using it got rusty easy fix as long as you dont drop the lil ball thanks again for the info
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Is the Smittybuilt the same as a T-max? My T-max sucks at freespooling.
That normally depends on if he had a Gen 1 or Gen 2 XRC8. The Gen 2 are the same as a T-max, which it sounds like he has.

My Gen 2 XRC8 (T-Max) is a PITA to free spool cold too. Hasn't annoyed me much this year as I didn't get to wheel much this year.
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