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Old December 24th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #21
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Old December 24th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #22
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Some guy over 21 comes in with a younger girl to buy smokes and booze,looks too sketchy.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 01:34 AM   #23
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I guess it takes some ppl a while to catch on. If you are a minor, sit your ass in the car and wait.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 02:39 AM   #24
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If the sales person has reasonable suspicion to believe you will be sharing, giving, providing, whatever substance/item to the person in line with you, they by law are supposed to ID them to make sure they are of age as well. Most of the time, places will only ID the person purchasing the items since the person in line with them is most likely old enough (or they are an idiot otherwise).

Same holds true if I ID a kid and he doesn't have it and sends his buddy in the car up - I'm allowed to (and supposed to) refuse the sale by law. Even if they send their parents up.

Sucks, but it's the law. My Job is more important than you getting your nicotine fix. And 99% of companies make you sign a statement saying you'll uphold this or YOU are responsible for any fines they face and can also be fired for not upholding it. Shit, we're supposed to ID anyone who looks under 29 or we can get busted by the state. But 99% of the time you can tell if you are being tested since the people the state hire don't buy goods. So if they have money in hand, you're probably good.

Please Cite the MCL for this, I would like to read this for myself. No wehere Have I read "you need to be 21 in order to accompany someone legally purchasing alcohol" I have been burned by this at meijer and it pissed me off to no end. I was buying and my finacee left her purse in the car because she didnt need it. We went in to buy a six pack and a bottle of wine (on top of a half of cart of misc. groceries) and I showed ID as always ( I am 24 and look 20 if clean shaven) and then the clerk asks for her ID and refused to sell otherwise, I made a scene and refused to step aside at the register while we waited for her to get her ID and then informed the clerk how much I was glad she wasted our time after proper ID was shown.

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As the manager of a Gas Station, I see this shit all the time. People need to sit back and put themself in the position of the person behind the counter/window before they get all bent about something like this.
STFU. You are the most under-paid and over-tasked employee for being a gas station manager. For real. You are not the saviour of the world from drunks and under-age smokers. Do your job, get piad measley dollars, and then shut it because we dont realize the job you do? I'll bitch if I wanna.
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Old December 25th, 2009, 03:34 AM   #26
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I love reading Scrodiac's posts. They always involve , underage girls and poor judgment.
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Please Cite the MCL for this, I would like to read this for myself. No wehere Have I read "you need to be 21 in order to accompany someone legally purchasing alcohol" I have been burned by this at meijer and it pissed me off to no end. I was buying and my finacee left her purse in the car because she didnt need it. We went in to buy a six pack and a bottle of wine (on top of a half of cart of misc. groceries) and I showed ID as always ( I am 24 and look 20 if clean shaven) and then the clerk asks for her ID and refused to sell otherwise, I made a scene and refused to step aside at the register while we waited for her to get her ID and then informed the clerk how much I was glad she wasted our time after proper ID was shown.
Thats because there is no law that says this!

Meijer tried to pull the same shit on me when I had my teenage daughter with me. I also made a big hairy deal about it, so much they called the cops. The cashier told the cops they could not sell it to me because my daughter did not have an ID, the cops are like (WTF???)...then in kinda a not so polite way they told the cashier that I was 40 years old, I have not been drinking, the girl I was with is my daughter and it would just be best for all of us if she just sold me the beer. I walked out of that store with beer!
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I bought a bottle the other day at Meijers, and had my 18 yr old son. self-checkout, no problems.
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went to wal mart ... bought a pad of paper, pens, tape, highliter, and white out .... they wouldnt sell me white out because i didnt have my id on me .... WTF? i threw a bitch fit and got escorted out
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Employees can't help the law, only abide it for fear of loosing their job and getting fined.

If it's evident enough the purchaser will be sharing the item, we're supposed to card the other person as well. So, if it was fairly evident they were together, it's pretty safe to presume he was going to share with her. Therefore, she should be carded as well.

What if she drank it and got in a car accident and killed somebody? They are going to hunt down and figure out how she got a hold of it if she was underage (and even of age probably) and it would fall into the fault of the store and employee.
THE LAW STATES THAT YOU ID THE PERSON THAT IS BUYING !!!!!

again parents but while they have their kids with them all the time and dont give booze to the kids

what they do with it after they leave the store dosent matter


so under your thinking if i go to the store with my wife (who is alergic to beer) and buy a case then you assume that i am gonna give it to her???

i understand that you are protecting yourselfe but come on!!!!
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went to buy some soda since it was on sale and a few other things. also had get a pack of smokes for my roomate and a case of beer, i'm 21 and i handed over my id to prove it but because my GF was with me they wouldn't sell them to me without her id. what kinda bullshit is that . told him to fukc himself and threw all the shit on the counter and left. went to walgreens got what i needed no questions asked. i know a business can deny service to anyone but thats just bullshit.

ever been denied of service for no legitimate reason?

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Aw come on give the guy some slack. This thread is legitimate! I too had a situation at a Meijers. I bout about $50 worth of merchandise paid with a check and left. Following day I shop for about 2 hours. Cart full of groceries. I get rung up and go to pay with a check again. Cashier tells me she can't accept a check under 1000! Calmly I explain I was just in here yesterday and paid with a check. I show her the log in of the check. She gets a manager and the mfer tells me the same fucking thing!
Yep I left the whole cart with groceries in line grabbed my kid and left. At the time the icecream was dripping all over the floor so I didn't want the groceries anymore.

Fucked up part is about a month later they come up with some kind of instant check scan thing that approves your checks at the register

This is for all of you people out there that believes if you have checks you have money

p.s. I next to never write checks. I'm still under 1500 on my check count
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Old December 25th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #34
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Don't checks start out at like 500 or 1000?
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went to buy some soda since it was on sale and a few other things. also had get a pack of smokes for my roomate and a case of beer, i'm 21 and i handed over my id to prove it but because my GF was with me they wouldn't sell them to me without her id. what kinda bullshit is that . told him to fukc himself and threw all the shit on the counter and left. went to walgreens got what i needed no questions asked. i know a business can deny service to anyone but thats just bullshit.

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Did you bring the said GF with you into Walgreens?
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Old December 25th, 2009, 09:26 AM   #36
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Kroger pulled this shit on me often. I show my ID (I am 40), then they want to card my wife. Store policy, blah, blah, blah.

Ask to see the policy in a store handbook IN WRITING, and don't leave line until they submit - but do not be an ass about it. Tell them unless it is posted at the register, or it can be provided to you in writing in their handbook, that they are discriminating against you. Ask if they card the children of parents that buy beer, and if not, why? Ask them to show you the procedure they use to define who gets carded and who doesn't.

The first time they tried carding my wife along with myself, they let us buy after I started my "dissertation". I also reminded them they could sell to me and I would go away, or, they could demand to also see my wife's ID causing me to go away - leaving them with a full cart of groceries to "reshop".

They can't produce documents that prove they have to do it - I have put them on the spot twice. It ends up that it is one really, really weird checker that imposes her own rules at will.

If anybody frequents the Howell Kroger, it is the unnaturally happy, old blonde that wears way too much makeup and rubber bracelets.
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well i understand both sides of this issue....i have heard of court cases where they have gone back to the store that sold the alcohol to someone of age and they distributed it to minors...the employee just got fired...johnny law cant do much else to the employee....but that just proves how goddamn liberal this country is and how suehappy everyone is...just out to get a buck for nothin from whoever has the most money.....and it IS still bullshit they card everyone some places i have also raised hell about this in the store and 9 outa 10 times walked out with my alcohol n smokes and wtf is this about white out??? you have to be a certain age to buy that now??? never heard of that one...
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Please Cite the MCL for this, I would like to read this for myself. No wehere Have I read "you need to be 21 in order to accompany someone legally purchasing alcohol" I have been burned by this at meijer and it pissed me off to no end. I was buying and my finacee left her purse in the car because she didnt need it. We went in to buy a six pack and a bottle of wine (on top of a half of cart of misc. groceries) and I showed ID as always ( I am 24 and look 20 if clean shaven) and then the clerk asks for her ID and refused to sell otherwise, I made a scene and refused to step aside at the register while we waited for her to get her ID and then informed the clerk how much I was glad she wasted our time after proper ID was shown.
It's not a Law for us to ID the person with them but it is against the law to provide alcohol to minors. And if we sold to someone and didn't ID the person with them and something legally happened, we'd be faulted as well.

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STFU. You are the most under-paid and over-tasked employee for being a gas station manager. For real. You are not the saviour of the world from drunks and under-age smokers. Do your job, get piad measley dollars, and then shut it because we dont realize the job you do? I'll bitch if I wanna.
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i understand that you are protecting yourselfe but come on!!!!
Well, we HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES with how people are in this day and age. It's not like back in the day when daddy could hand johnny a note ok'ing him to buy a pack of cigarettes are the local store for 25 cents.

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well i understand both sides of this issue....i have heard of court cases where they have gone back to the store that sold the alcohol to someone of age and they distributed it to minors...the employee just got fired...johnny law cant do much else to the employee....but that just proves how goddamn liberal this country is and how suehappy everyone is...
Johnny Law can't, but when employees are forced to sign paperwork stating they can he held fiscaly responsible for any fines, they pay attention. Also, who wants to loose a job in this day in age?
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Ask to see the policy in a store handbook IN WRITING, and don't leave line until they submit - but do not be an ass about it. Tell them unless it is posted at the register, or it can be provided to you in writing in their handbook, that they are discriminating against you. Ask if they card the children of parents that buy beer, and if not, why? Ask them to show you the procedure they use to define who gets carded and who doesn't.
good luck with that. The companies employee handbook is private information, and you are on private property while in thier store. They have no legal obligation to provide you with any information about thier policies, nor do they have any legal obligation to sell to you.They do have the right to refuse service to you, for any reason. Something like this action could easily escalate to the police being called, and the customer ending up in jail.

Seriously, if your going to buy controlled substances, and have someone with you who is a minor, is it really that difficult to have them wait in the car, or just wait to buy the stuff? I agree that some of these rules (not laws) are a little ridiculous, but is it really that hard to follow them?

The gas station I go to when I need to buy kerosene will not sell to anyone unless the container is blue. I had a yellow can I painted blue, and some of the paint was coming off. They refused to sell me any kerosene with that container. I took it to the fire dept, and talked to the chief there, who laughed and said there was more blue paint on mine then there was on his, but that doesnt mean they have to sell me any kerosene.
They wont even accept a clear container that says Kerosene on it, like the ones you see at TSC and Home Depot. If it isnt 100% blue, they wont sell you any kerosene. I just went and bought a blue container, problem solved.
Fuel containers are suposed to be color coded, or clearly labeled, but thier policy is to follow the color code only.

Seriously people, learn to pick your battles. Yelling at an employee is only going to make you look like an ass, give them a bad day, and not acomplish anything other then making everyone involved pissed off. Who knows, maybe that cashier already dealt with one asshat that day that was yelling at them for the same reason.
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Did you bring the said GF with you into Walgreens?
yea i did cuz she wanted some specific things i wasn't sure of what they were so i let her go get what she wanted i got what i needed and we cashed out. walgreens asked for my id seen i was 21 said ok have a nice day.
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