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Old February 10th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #401
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I hope your winch line breaks. And yes, I want to leave on time.
My winch line broke while winching your jeep. Thanks.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 03:46 AM   #402
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We're you happy with the transmission?
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:27 AM   #403
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looks like you gave it a good test...you happy with the outcome?
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Old February 11th, 2013, 09:20 AM   #404
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Very happy with the outcome. The jeep is very stable for not having a sway bar. It goes, it stops, and seems to be working well. We broke a few things right out of the gate, and we have an annoyance with the engine mounts being too soft and allowing the drivetrain to roll more than we would like. From a capability standpoint, definitely ready for TREC racing.

Trans is great. No issues. The cooling fan kicked in a few times after extended floggings and brought the temp back down without issue. Shifting is crisp and clean. Tranny Tom did a knock out job on the clean up, upgrades, and shift kit install. I love the manual valve body as expected.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 09:29 AM   #405
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I drove it. It peels out. Note to anyone driving it, make sure the brake shutoffs are turned back off before attempting to drive down the steep ledges of Outer Limits.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 12:54 PM   #406
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2013 TREC Races. Just a few weeks until the first race.

March 9 Trec 1, Badlands Offroad, Attica, Indiana
May 18 Trec 2, Badlands Offroad, Attica, Indiana
June 28 Trec 3 & UMC, Badlands Offroad, Attica, Indiana
August 3 Trec 4, Badlands Offroad, Attica, Indiana
October 19 Trec 5 & Customer Appreciation Day, Badlands Offroad, Attica, Indiana
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #407
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What do you have to wrap up for race time?
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #408
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Bump stops, build a Pitman arm, window nets, rear firewall, catch cans for vent lines, sure I'm missing 6 or 12 more things

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Very happy with the outcome. The jeep is very stable for not having a sway bar. It goes, it stops, and seems to be working well. We broke a few things right out of the gate, and we have an annoyance with the engine mounts being too soft and allowing the drivetrain to roll more than we would like. From a capability standpoint, definitely ready for TREC racing.

Trans is great. No issues. The cooling fan kicked in a few times after extended floggings and brought the temp back down without issue. Shifting is crisp and clean. Tranny Tom did a knock out job on the clean up, upgrades, and shift kit install. I love the manual valve body as expected.
Good to hear, I will be doing the exact same to mine since it worked out well for you.
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Add a big azzz indicator light that both brake lines are turned off.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #411
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Can you cut the rear of the frame in 4500 class?

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6.4 MODIFIED CLASS
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6.4.1.1 The frame is considered to be the primary frame rails used to mount the drive train and body. It shall run from the OEM motor mount location to behind the rearmost portion of the occupants' seats. The balance of the frame shall remain whole however allowances will be made for suspension mounting.
6.4.1.1.1 The stock frame should be retained, however aftermarket and custom frames are allowed. Aftermarket and custom frames must be of a boxed design with minimum dimensions of 1.5” x 3” x 0.120”.
What does the "balance of the frame" mean?
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Can you cut the rear of the frame in 4500 class?

What does the "balance of the frame" mean?
Check out the rules thread on pirate, they try to talk about it some, but it seems gray to me. We used 2x3x0.120 to replace stock frame sections to keep the look, but I've seen guys use round tube to replace frame in front of engine mounts and behind the seats.

The 2013 rules made it much easier by allowing you to start with box tubing and using no stock frame. I would have much preferred doing that.
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Old February 18th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #413
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Check out the rules thread on pirate, they try to talk about it some, but it seems gray to me. We used 2x3x0.120 to replace stock frame sections to keep the look, but I've seen guys use round tube to replace frame in front of engine mounts and behind the seats.

The 2013 rules made it much easier by allowing you to start with box tubing and using no stock frame. I would have much preferred doing that.
I sent Chris an email. I will post the reply.

I was bummed to find out I can't run a trailing arm in 4500
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I was bummed to find out I can't run a trailing arm in 4500
That's been part of it since I read the rules. TREC-B allowed it, but never saw it in 4500. They have to differentiate the two somehow, and I guess that's one way.
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Here is what Chris said when I asked if I can bob the rear of the frame.

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The frame is required to go to behind the rearmost portion of the rearmost occupant seat. As long as you meet that you can chop the rest of the rear part off.
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Here is what Chris said when I asked if I can bob the rear of the frame.
That's what I've seen, but with the excess of useless words in parts of the spec, I wasn't sure if they were having a change of heart.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 12:16 AM   #417
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One week until the first race.

Bump stops are mounted on the frame. 3 out of 4 axle pads are in. Hopefully not much more than an hour on that job.

Pitman arm is started. Spare steering box looks like it has a leak, so we will swap it out. What do you guys think - rebuilt Cardone box from auto value for $155 or one with a limited warranty from VatoZone for $110? The box we were running was a cardone rebuild and had no problems, but we kinda welded a pitman arm to it and we need a replacement. My fear with the AZ part is having the new one leak after a few runs. We had two seasons on our old gear box.

Rear fire wall needs a few tabs, bolts, and some felt to keep it quiet and it is done. Still need to make side panels and a panel to block the air filter. Catch cans, mount the roof, limit straps, window nets, and 10 other things I'm not thinking of.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 03:39 AM   #418
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Put it on the trailer and finish it in the parking lot.

Since this is a new setup and you are still learning, go with the cheaper steering box. If it leaks, you can replace it for free.
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