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Old January 7th, 2013, 08:18 AM   #281
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Wow, somebody who actually took the time to do neat wiring. Well done.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 10:55 AM   #282
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Thanks. After the Wagoneer's wiring started off ok and degraded into a rat's nest, I felt we needed to do something to make trouble shooting a possibility.

We spent the entire day out in the garage. It started off all f'd up where I tried to install a new alternator that turns out was close to the same as ours, but not close enough and JeepM715 made a fuel pump bracket that ended up getting tossed. So we took a break and ran up to the parts store and to try a do-over.

When we got back JeepM715 started on fuel pump mount v2 and I got to work mounting the PCM and fuse panel. Mitch came down just after lunch and brought the driveshafts he built for us and knocked out a few tasks like mounting the O2 sensors and installing the exhaust up to the 2-1 collector, torque convertor bolts, and some other misc tasks around the engine getting it ready to fire. Just before dinner JeepM715 had the fuel plumbing done and I had the panel in and ready to wire in the PCM.

After dinner Mitch headed home, JeepM715 kept knocking out the BS tasks needed to get the engine to fire and I wired in the PCM, fuel pump, and the old starter/ign switch from the Wag that was sitting on the shelf with the old wiring pigtail.

By the time I ran up to get some gas JeepM715 had the battery in and hooked up using the factory wiring and had bumped the starter over. We poured in the fuel, primed the pump a few times and checked for leaks and I checked the power outputs at the fuse panel. After one fitting was tightened and a few more primes on the fuel pump we hit the starter button and the engine started right away.

It surprised the hell out of us. We figured we would need to do some trouble shooting and fighting to get it started, but it started like it had just been parked just long enough to run into the store for some milk. All this before 11pm. It was unbelievable. I don't think I've ever had first fire on an engine before midnight.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:04 AM   #283
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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:07 AM   #284
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In tank fuel pump or external?
Did you have oil in the trans?
That's the beauty of a computer controlled engine. It either works or it doesn't. My 6.0 fired right away too.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:15 AM   #285
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External fuel pump (from MSD) and LS1 factory filter/regulator on the cross member below the fuel cell. Dead head fuel line up to the engine (factory setup). We had talked about trying to make an in-tank setup, but felt the time it would require to get right wasn't our top priority right now.

We filled the trans and put a bypass line on the coolant ports so we wouldn't soak the garage. We didn't run the engine long enough to check out trans functionality, just had it in park, t-case in neutral, and the axles in Sterling Heights to make sure it wouldn't run away.

We need to get the steering pump plumbed, radiator in and plumbed, and put on a serpentine belt and let it all warm up and check for codes. I also have to put the wire stretchers on the coolant temp sensor, too. It won't reach with how we have the computer harness routed.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:17 AM   #286
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Old January 12th, 2013, 08:36 AM   #287
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Done yet??? Or did you pull a Craig and take a week off
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Old January 12th, 2013, 04:22 PM   #288
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Small stuff going on and axles are being assembled.
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Old January 13th, 2013, 06:55 AM   #289
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Done yet??? Or did you pull a Craig and take a week off
Rear axle is geared and hubs rebuilt. Front axle hopefully done today. I'm finishing off a cold, so not moving 100%. Radiator mount needs another hour, then I'll do the battery box and start on dash and wiring.
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Old January 13th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #290
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How does it flex? Can it do a burn out yet?
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Old January 14th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #291
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No flexing or burnouts yet.

Axles are back. Front got the knuckles installed tonight and can slide under the jeep. Rear axle and links got a coat of paint. Need to go bolt shopping to get them in.

Radiator hoses are on, intake is plumbed. Stretched the wires for the coolant temp sensor and installed coolant temp sensor the gauge. Radiator mount is done. I just need to weld and paint the fan shroud.

Started working on dash but ran out of steam and called it a night.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 11:21 PM   #292
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Axles back in their home.



So you can see the Cole Trickle air intake tube. It hits the upper radiator hose, hood, trans dipstick, and engine dipstick. There might be some room for massaging, but it's prego for now.



For the first time tonight I was able to turn from lock to lock using the steering wheel. All along the way at least one part has been missing, so it was cool to turn it back and forth a few times.

And on the other side of town, JeepM715 knocked out the Spicer u-joints on stock axle shafts that we will be running until we find a money tree for some expensive stuff. I'm guessing we can make it live on 35s.

Big thanks to DTS. As always we called them at the last minute, and they were able to get us the 5.13 gears for our 14-bolt and Dana 60, all the bearings and seals, 1410 yoke for the 14-bolt, u-joints, and install kits. Without them we'd be up a creek about now.

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Old January 15th, 2013, 07:08 AM   #293
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Looks good. You will be fine with the Spicers. I'm still running the stock ones that came with my 1978 axle.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 07:46 AM   #294
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I broke mine on All Terrains, but I'm a bad driver.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 07:50 AM   #295
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Old January 15th, 2013, 09:54 PM   #296
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JeepM715 sent me some pictures of the gauge panel. It will mount in the center of the dash.



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Old January 17th, 2013, 12:26 AM   #297
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Tonight we were going to install the dash and shifter, but instead installed the steering cooler, reservoir, and plumbing, battery box (thanks Jim), and cut link bolts to length and bolted them in for final assembly (thanks pwrwgn). And a couple of other small things that needed to get done.

Fired up the engine again with the serpentine belt on. Alternator started charging and power steering pump was pushing fluid. Another small victory.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #298
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Tonight we were going to install the dash and shifter, but instead installed the steering cooler, reservoir, and plumbing, battery box (thanks Jim), and cut link bolts to length and bolted them in for final assembly (thanks pwrwgn). And a couple of other small things that needed to get done.

Fired up the engine again with the serpentine belt on. Alternator started charging and power steering pump was pushing fluid. Another small victory.
What type/brand of power steering pump and cooler are you running?
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Steering box is from a 88 Grand Wagoneer (saginaw style, 4-bolt mount). Stock pump from the 2006 chevy 3/4-ton van 6.0 LQ4 that requires a remote reservoir, which is just a cheap one from speedway that was sitting on the shelf. The cooler is a derale 18" heat sink style, like the one in the link below. We ran the same basic thing on our Wag and it seemed to do fine, so we are just doing the same again.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/de...2/media/images

No full hydro allowed, and we aren't running hydro assist to start because we like the quickness of the stock setup.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 01:26 AM   #300
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Thanks,

So is that a p style pump then? Or a tc? I Googled, but it was no help, but being gm I'd assume its a p pump. Anyways the only reason I ask is because I have a p style pump (attached reservoir) and Saginaw box with a Derale cooler (12" dual pass) and I over heat and cook pumps constantly. So I have to ask is there any kind of special fluid you are running or tricks to make it last?
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