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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:08 AM   #1
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Default my homemade mattracks

this has been floating through my head for a while, that it cant be too hard to make these mattracks instead of ditching out the money on just an old truck that is used in winter time alot for snowplowing. so here is an idea that i came up with



yay or nay. the pic says it all. the red is a rim that just mounts on your truck like any regular rim, it will have peices sticking off it for the track to grip on to. and the grey is steel supports that will hold it together, do you think that is thick enough what is in the legend? and the blue is just idler[boogy] wheels for the track to ride on
all input appreciated. i got some skidoo tracks at my pops and the steel and the boogy wheels and the rims so i got everything i need, and my pop is a welder
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:12 AM   #2
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looks like it should totally be easy to build



make sure to post pics when you build it so we can make fun of you
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:14 AM   #3
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haha im not sure if ill build it yet, just a maybe
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:15 AM   #4
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how are yopu going to stop if from just rotating and you dont have nearly enough approach angle
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I wish I had pics, but theres another way. I seen one done years ago for yellowstone tours. it used Bombardie tracks from a Muskat and then used a drive carriage that slid under the whole van. then it drove the two tracks off a gear mounted in place of the rear wheels. in the front it used two huge A arm mounted skies with mounts to the front hubs. it then used a drag link to each ski and the hub as suspension. it was pretty cool and the only thing that was not mounted to the hubs was a crossmemeber added under the trans for mid mount of the craddle assembly. it was totally removable come spring time.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:17 AM   #6
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Oh yeah, I'm sure it won't offer any challenge. And are you doing this for your atv or truck? I see a HUGE difference. With the weight of a truck putting sheer pressure on bogey wheels (I'm assuming you're talking about snowmachine bogeys) when turning during plowing I'd give it 3-5 turns before shit starts snapping and flying off that thing. But I'd love to be proved wrong as it would be really cool if it worked. Keep us posted.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:18 AM   #7
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how are yopu going to stop if from just rotating and you dont have nearly enough approach angle
never thought of that but i figure same was as on a quad, just have like radius arms to hold it
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:19 AM   #8
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Oh yeah, I'm sure it won't offer any challenge. And are you doing this for your atv or truck? I see a HUGE difference. With the weight of a truck putting sheer pressure on bogey wheels (I'm assuming you're talking about snowmachine bogeys) when turning during plowing I'd give it 3-5 turns before shit starts snapping and flying off that thing. But I'd love to be proved wrong as it would be really cool if it worked. Keep us posted.
they would be the steel ones that are sorta like the ones that comes on mattracks, not the plain old plastic snowmobile wheels lol
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if it helps try looking at some of these for ideas

http://www.atvtracks.net/
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:19 AM   #10
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I wish I had pics, but theres another way. I seen one done years ago for yellowstone tours. it used Bombardie tracks from a Muskat and then used a drive carriage that slid under the whole van. then it drove the two tracks off a gear mounted in place of the rear wheels. in the front it used two huge A arm mounted skies with mounts to the front hubs. it then used a drag link to each ski and the hub as suspension. it was pretty cool and the only thing that was not mounted to the hubs was a crossmemeber added under the trans for mid mount of the craddle assembly. it was totally removable come spring time.

That truck was my senior project at WMU! My professors son worked in the park. Our senior design project was to select an efficient torque biasing system so that it would turn better. The way it was then was that it would just brake the inside track in a turn and I guess it pushed really bad.

Oh and I have pics but they are on film and at home :)

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maybe it would be easier to just buy a used halftrack? their around if you look.

http://www.halftracks.com/index.cfm
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One more thing... without some sort of device to keep the wheel from spinning the whole assembly when torque is applied, I think you'd be putting that ski-doo track through your fenderwell.

edit: nevermind, someone beat me to it.
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That truck was my senior project at WMU! My professors son worked in the park. Our senior design project was to select an efficient torque biasing system so that it would turn better. The way it was then was that it would just brake the inside track in a turn and I guess it pushed really bad.

Oh and I have pics but they are on film and at home :)

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you sure your talking about the same one? the one I saw was built around 1990
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:23 AM   #14
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13 replys in 13 minutes, not bad
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:25 AM   #15
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Nay; There's some serious engeneering going on with those things.

http://www.mattracks.com/html/production.htm
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but you guys should know this is only going under a bronco 2, they only weigh around 3000lbs its not going under a fullsize truck
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Old December 11th, 2009, 10:09 AM   #17
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Those tracks dont look that hard to build yourself. Like they said they just use snowmobile tracks and boggie wheels, it even looks like an off the shelf steel wheel for the drive sproket.
That is what I said in this thread,
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, really doesnt look that hard to do at all.
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but you guys should know this is only going under a bronco 2, they only weigh around 3000lbs its not going under a fullsize truck
Arn't those the ones that would flip over because their center of gravity was to high? and you want to raise it?
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Arn't those the ones that would flip over because their center of gravity was to high? and you want to raise it?
of course. lol
actually ive owned several and never flipped one and ive never seen one flipped on all the forums im on

this is my newest one, shes much to low, shes getting a 3" body lift and 4" susp and 33s
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