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Old December 10th, 2009, 02:29 PM   #41
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If you want to know if you have locker in the front, engage the 4wd but do not engage the posi-lok. Put it in reverse & give it a quick spurt of gas. Usually it will make the wheel turn real quick if it is only driving from the driver's side.

You really need to learn what you are buying before you get hosed again and again and again.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #42
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If you want to know if you have locker in the front, engage the 4wd but do not engage the posi-lok. Put it in reverse & give it a quick spurt of gas. Usually it will make the wheel turn real quick if it is only driving from the driver's side.

You really need to learn what you are buying before you get hosed again and again and again.
You right I do need to learn. But I highly doubt I got hosed this time and if I did it's because the po might not have known either. I'm going to find out whats in it.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #43
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Sorry guys, here's some pictures. I have no idea of what I have. I do know that when I put the jeep in 4x4 it drives like any other jeep in 4x4, when I pulled the red lever it felt like I kinda lost my power steeriing but not bad or anything just made it a little harder to turn. Thanks for the help guys.





Hope these help.

I called Planet Power SPorts (BDS) and they want $70 just to look at it and tell me what it is.
First of all if you asked them over the phone in the same manner you made this post they probably didnt understand.
Secondly if you drove it to the shop they would gladly tell you what you need to know free of charge.
The person you talked to is trained to answer the phone and if you dont give them good info they cant help you any better than the people on here.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 07:12 PM   #44
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iam the po of this jeep and the rear has detroit lock right in it i know for a fact because i put it in when the old rear in blew up the front is lock/welded/spooled i dont know but when you put in it 4x4 one wheel will spin when you pull the cable both wheel will spin lastman it is a dana 30
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Old December 10th, 2009, 07:14 PM   #45
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the front is lock/welded/spooled i dont know but when you put in it 4x4 one wheel will spin when you pull the cable both wheel will spin
is that possible?
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Old December 10th, 2009, 07:29 PM   #46
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I'm not sure but did anyone else notice that tie rod?

Edit: It is the track bar no big deal
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Old December 10th, 2009, 08:26 PM   #47
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:21 PM   #48
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First of all if you asked them over the phone in the same manner you made this post they probably didnt understand.
Secondly if you drove it to the shop they would gladly tell you what you need to know free of charge.
The person you talked to is trained to answer the phone and if you dont give them good info they cant help you any better than the people on here.
Probley true, I jut askd if someone could look at it and tell me what I had.

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iam the po of this jeep and the rear has detroit lock right in it i know for a fact because i put it in when the old rear in blew up the front is lock/welded/spooled i dont know but when you put in it 4x4 one wheel will spin when you pull the cable both wheel will spin lastman it is a dana 30
It operates exactly as he told me it would. I hit the gas with it in 4x4 in and both back tires spin and the front drivers side spins, if I pull the posi lok all 4 tires spin. I did this on the ice this afternoon.

Now the bad, mike came over and helped me take it apart and we found:




Welded. All the welds are broke. We tried to get the spider gears out but for some reason the big pin that goes through the carrier would not come out. On one side of the carrier there is a hole where mike said he thought there was supose to be a bolt that holds that pin, but there was no bolt there and the pin still would not budge no matter how hard we hit it.
I wanted to pull out the welded spiders and put in new ones but at this point I think I'm going to find a welder and have it rewelded right and use it as is untill the spring when I'll have more money and can lock it the right way.

Will a decent 110 wire welder get hot enough to weld it right?
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:25 PM   #49
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The hole where there was "supposed" to be a bolt should in fact be holding a roll pin, instead of a bolt.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:30 PM   #50
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wow that's the worst welded diff i've ever seen
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:32 PM   #51
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The hole where there was "supposed" to be a bolt should in fact be holding a roll pin, instead of a bolt.
I thought it looked like a pin in there! Could you tell me how to get it out?

Also I was wondering if anyone else has there rig welded in front with the posi lok? Is it bad to use like that with not having the normal 4 wheel drive you would have with a open carrier? Would using 4x4 on the road without the posi lok so only the drivers side wheel spins be dangerous?
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:42 PM   #52
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What you want to avoid is having both front tires spinning at the same rate while trying to turn ( like a locker would do). As long as the front two tires are free to spin at different rates so as not to cause any "binding" you should be fine. I have not done this, but in theory, it dosent matter what you do as long as they still can spin at different rates while turning.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:48 PM   #53
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What you want to avoid is having both front tires spinning at the same rate while trying to turn ( like a locker would do). As long as the front two tires are free to spin at different rates so as not to cause any "binding" you should be fine. I have not done this, but in theory, it dosent matter what you do as long as they still can spin at different rates while turning.
Cool. It doesn't bind when I drive it in 4x4 unless I pull the posi lok cable. I did notice it pulls just a little bit when I get on the gas a bit.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 10:02 PM   #54
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Old December 10th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #55
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i am sorry its welded i never took the front cover off it see i will get you a new carrier if you do pull it you can have a open dif
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i am sorry its welded i never took the front cover off it see i will get you a new carrier if you do pull it you can have a open dif
Not worried about it man, just gonna weld this one back up untill spring then probley buy a locker and fix it. I just want to get it done today so we can wheel bundy hill tomarow!
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You won't have trouble driving it with the posi-lok engaged when you are in slippery conditions. Bad roads = no problem. Your problem will come when you are driving in conditions that go from slippery to totally dry. It will be a real bitch to turn that on dry pavement, especially doing tight turns like going around a corner or in a parking lot.

My recommendation is to do some test driving with the posi-lok disengaged out on some country roads where there is no other traffic. See how it feels. Do a couple panic stops. I suspect you will have times where it feels like it is pulling hard to one side. This can be dangerous. If you're comfortable with it, drive it. If it feels goofy to you, don't.
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You won't have trouble driving it with the posi-lok engaged when you are in slippery conditions. Bad roads = no problem. Your problem will come when you are driving in conditions that go from slippery to totally dry. It will be a real bitch to turn that on dry pavement, especially doing tight turns like going around a corner or in a parking lot.

My recommendation is to do some test driving with the posi-lok disengaged out on some country roads where there is no other traffic. See how it feels. Do a couple panic stops. I suspect you will have times where it feels like it is pulling hard to one side. This can be dangerous. If you're comfortable with it, drive it. If it feels goofy to you, don't.
Ok I'm going to do that. I've been driving it to my shop and back (3blocks) with the transfer case in 4 H and the Posi-lok disengaged and have had no problems but most of that 3 blocks has been kinda slippery conditions. I'm going to go find a nice dry parking lot and test it out and see how it feels.

First I gotta get it welded back togeather. I found a wire welder I might be able to use and a friend who can weld so maybe I can get it done. I really can't afford to take it to a shop to get welded right now because of stupid ass christmas.
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