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Old December 2nd, 2009, 07:18 PM   #1
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Please give me your comments. Good with the bad so I can learn what you felt was great and what was bad . I want to be able to adjust to your needs. Thank You for your support for our first season . The Owners were very optomistic on the success of the park when we opened, I beleve that you our guest have have overwelmed their expectations and That was a GREAT THING> There is Plans for a well and Limited power for next year, This may mean a chance of a on-site welder for use.Plans for a few more BIG boy obs and many more rolling crazy trails .

Thanks again Your Friend Ron Price
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 07:42 PM   #2
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Ron,
I've been to R&V 8 or 9 times during the past year. As you know, I was a bit critical early on and pushed you to create some tougher obstacles. Each time I visited, I suggested changes and I was pleased to see that on my next visit you responded.

You have some great terrain but are limited by extreme "sharp" elevation changes. I'd love to see you find a way to create deep "V" notches. However with the sandy conditions of your land, I'm afraid that they would get knocked down and flattened out easily. So, I don't now if that would work out. Here's what I mean.





Winch hill is good. I'd like to suggest another 2 or 3 hills very similar side by side on the same ridge. I also think that these hills need logs in them. Adding logs in with rocks adds a whole new dimension to a hill.

I like steep horsepower hill climbs. Stump hill may grow into that over time but it's not there yet. Same for the bowl out back. I wonder if there's a way to make a deep, steep pit. Quite literally, dig a 15 foot deep hole in the sand that's only 30 feet in diameter. With the loose sand, it wouldn't get dug out where a rear flop could happen. But without room for a run, I would bet there would be a fair amount of winching going on.

I have some other thoughts but this is it for now.

On the positive side, you have a great start and your park has been run professionally. Keep it up.

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Old December 2nd, 2009, 08:05 PM   #3
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i was only there once unfortunately ron, but it was alot of fun. i was amazed for a first year park to be so nice. i took it pretty easy, it was the shake down run on my buggy.
ill work it a little harder in the spring.

all i could ask for is more trails, the more the better! congrats on a great facility!
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I also have only been there once so far. It was a good time with plenty to do. I know it has only grown since then and look forward to coming back.

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Old December 2nd, 2009, 08:25 PM   #5
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Ron, I think I was up there 5 times in the last year. I enjoyed consistent progression of change at each visit. Very much enjoyed the rolling, tight trails. The big tires obstacle is harder than it looks and that is fine. The gate fee is reasonable but I will look for an annual for next year and I will prolly have a more suitable camper also. Keep up the good work.
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 08:34 PM   #6
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i went 5 times in 3 months and i had never had my jeep off road befor...i just got my jeep a year ago and it was a pos when i got it....
any way the park is by far the most fun i have ever had

i would like to see more long trails with dificulty a little more then what the python has to offer

frame bender was pretty tuff for my open diffs and 31s with 3 inch lift. but it can be done.

pack a lunch length with python difficulty?



running water and a real bathroom for the ladies would be cool.


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Old December 2nd, 2009, 09:17 PM   #7
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I made the trip several times, and was never disappointed. A few opinions/suggestions: a newer and more clear map, better marking of the trails, more obsticles/rocks/logs in some of the longer trails. Overall I think you have done a great job for being so new, I would just like to see some more difficult actual trails...
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 09:20 PM   #8
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Hey Ron, this is Jeff from mount pleasant, I drive the red TJ. Anyway, Im sure I dont have to tell you I love the park since I have been comming just about every weekend you've been open for the winter months. Anyway, I deff. got some constructive criticism for ya. For starters, alot like whiterhino said, a few more rock climbs like winch hill right along that same hill would be sweet. Maybe one with some real big boulders for the big guys and one with some easier lines and smaller rocks. There is a lot of room on that hill so it might be cool to make an all log trail simliar to the type you'd see on old tough truck competitions where they stack logs along the hill at srategic distance apart. Also, playing off of the v notch idea that whiterhino had, it would be cool to dig out the notch like he said but then line each side of the notch with large slabs of conrete to keep the sidewalls from falling in. A long concrete v notch trail thats broken up by some other rocky sections along the way would be extremely fun. You could probably even get slabs like that from a road commision thats doing construction or something similar. Another trail like python would be cool too but make it with a more rock crawls along the way or even just add more rocks into the python trail. But I really enjoy trails that introduce mud pits right before rocks or even mud pits that require you to climb up a ledge at the end. The added challenge of having your tires wet/packed with mud is great. Lastly, the valley is a huge wide open section and you have 2 great big hills there. You could easily use those to your advantage and make some more great crawls up those. Or dig one out to be even steeper and just create a super steep hill climb. Id just like to see more down there besides a mud pit and the real crazy crawl thats there now. You coud even do a frame twister style trail up one of the hills. Thats all I have for now. I have really enjoyed your park though and I will continue to come back.
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I will chime in after this Saturday. Been a couple of times but not for a couple of months. Looking forward to Saturday!!
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Def a new map option, LOL....even for someone who has run alot of trails several times and been there a fair bit...I still can't seem to find what I'm looking for 30% of the time!! hehe


Aside from that, RnV has basically been a great place to wheel in its first year, great people, great park, and no complaints here!

I have really liked how the park is always evolving, compared to opening day, its a whole different park! every weekend theres a new trail or obstacle, and personally, my rig has been slowly increasing in skill level, which opens up so much more every time I show up...and I have YET to get bored.... The park in general is a great place to hang out and go to, I've taken family up there who have never been wheeling, and they loved it just as much!

Thanks for a great year ron and everyone else @ RnV :D
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Old December 3rd, 2009, 07:47 AM   #11
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I havent been there but from the pictures I've seen I like the willingness to take advice and grow the obsticals.

Did you ever have any discussions about what I gave you info on?
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Awesome park Ron, exspecially for the first year, you guys have done an outstanding job. If you keep working on it like you have been I would believe it will be one of the best places around. I have had nothing but a great time there.
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I was there I think 4 times this year and every time I found more trails I had not been on yet. (this was in a 5 week period) I really love what you've done with the place. The staff makes it what it is in my opinion great job Ron and the rest of the staff.

As far as the park goes hands down better than anywhere else I've been. I'll be back soon
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Log climb at Iron Range OHV park in Minnesota. This was taken right after it was built. The guy building it made a different distance between each set of logs so that no matter what wheelbase you have, you'll find a place to be challenged. He sunk the vertical posts pretty deep and you can see they are bolted together.

I would like to see something like this done but with a couple different size logs.......... some for the smaller rigs and some for the larger rigs. Once this gets dug out it would get VERY tough.

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that one looks like it would be fun
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the only problem i have is trail markings and maps. they both could be clearer and the trails need to be marked better to match the maps.

other than that the park rocks and its cool to have a fun place to play so close to home.

keep up the good work and great attitude.
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Log climb at Iron Range OHV park in Minnesota. This was taken right after it was built. The guy building it made a different distance between each set of logs so that no matter what wheelbase you have, you'll find a place to be challenged. He sunk the vertical posts pretty deep and you can see they are bolted together.

I would like to see something like this done but with a couple different size logs.......... some for the smaller rigs and some for the larger rigs. Once this gets dug out it would get VERY tough.

when thats dug out i bet it claims alot of axle and driveshafts
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when thats dug out i bet it claims alot of axle and driveshafts
I think it will require a rock bed at the base of each log.
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You know I love what you have done, and be sure to tell Jeff and his Dad thanks from all of us!

Looking forward to some electricity and flat camping spots.
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I have only been there once, and had a blast. I think you have done a great job on the trails, I had fun all day without getting bored. As some said above, the map and trail markings need to be clearer. We ended up giving up on the map early on and just wandered around. It would be nice to have all the trail names on the map. Also, longer trails with more obstacles like mentioned. Seems like the trails with lots of obstacles are really short and the ones with little or no obstacles are really long. Keep up the great work, I will be visiting a lot more in the future
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