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Old November 14th, 2009, 10:36 PM   #41
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As an ex nuke (Uss Billfish SSN676) I will second that 6-figure question??? I moved on to boilers and am making more than my friends who went on to continue in the nuclear field. Its a nice living but its not 6 figures.

The failure rate when I went thru was almost 50%. And most of those guys went on to paint stuff for the next 5.5 years. Not be cooks. You might end up being a galley rat for 5.5 years tho. And that sucks the big one too. If you decide that you want it you better want it 100%, heart and soul...and even then there is the chance of failure. You don't want to fail.

If you make it thru then life will be better for you. You pass thru all the low ranks while still in school. Make good money. Used to have huge bonuses (if you reenlisted after a full 6 years for 4 more years it was $45,000...and you could get it 3 times...half up front and the rest figured into your pay over the next 4 years).

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50% fail rate, maybe they will let you bring your favorite paint brush.
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I said I didn't like it. I didn't say I wasn't good at it
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if your sooooooooo smart why are you looking at the military huh?

jobs in the civilian world pay better and
you wont have to do any push ups in the job interview

you can be a huge nancy and sit at a desk and no one will ever ask what you can bench press!!!!
WOW.
You really are clueless. I hope you were joking.

You get more than an education, you can't get anywhere else.
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You need to think long and hard before nuke school. You seem tenative here.

The program is 100% applied math & applied science, and is designed (at the beginning) to weed out the non-hackers. They will mess with your head to see if you've got it in you, the upside being that once they've decided you're worth it they'll go to some lengths to help you succeed. It isn't just about learning some stuff out of a book, it's having the level-headedness, level of attention to detail, and ability to cope that they're looking for.

If that's what you're ready for, go for it. I know a lot of people that've done it, and it's served everyone well.

Arr-Pea? Lemme guess, ex-ELT?

Oh, and with big OT that six figures can happen, but we hire at about $30/hour. The old days of nuclear road whores travelling the country working outages has severely scaled back. A nuclear renaissance is likely to change that, so I'd encourage any and all young people interested to look into the nuclear field. All of us current nukes are getting old or taking candy-assed corporate HQ jobs...

For those interested in the nuke business but perhaps not the USN, take a look at these:
http://www.monroeccc.edu/self-study/...%20Program.pdf

http://www.terra.edu/PDFs/programshe...Technology.pdf

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if your sooooooooo smart why are you looking at the military huh?

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you can be a huge nancy and sit at a desk and no one will ever ask what you can bench press!!!!


Your level of cluelessness is exceeded only by your lack of judgement. STFU.
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thanks for the advice duffman.

I obviously wont be shipping out before may, so I want to take some prep classes at a local community college. do you guys have any recomendations on which are the most vital? I was thinking some basic physics, and a trig/calc class... maybe chemistry
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thanks for the advice duffman.

I obviously wont be shipping out before may, so I want to take some prep classes at a local community college. do you guys have any recomendations on which are the most vital? I was thinking some basic physics, and a trig/calc class... maybe chemistry
The ones you mentioned. They'll teach you again - their way - but the confidence of being prepared is invaluable.
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Plus college credit = higher rank when you enlist. I would have been an E5 coming out of basic if I hadn't blown my knee out the weekend before I was supposed to leave for boot camp.
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FWIW, I want to be on a sub anyways
You haven't talked to many people who served on subs have you .

All kidding aside, thanks for pursuing to serve.

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Plus college credit = higher rank when you enlist. I would have been an E5 coming out of basic if I hadn't blown my knee out the weekend before I was supposed to leave for boot camp.
Even if you have a college degree you don't come out an E-5 in the Army unless you resigned your commission or something as an officer. You sure the other services have this type of option?

IIRC it's 2 years time in service as an E-4 before you can go to the board even if you have a 4 year degree (Army).
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Even if you have a college degree you don't come out an E-5 in the Army unless you resigned your commission or something as an officer. You sure the other services have this type of option?

IIRC it's 2 years time in service as an E-4 before you can go to the board even if you have a 4 year degree (Army).
There is no "board" anymore and there is also a waiver for pretty much anything. It is possible to get E-5 after completing Basic and AIT after enlisting as an E-4 because you had a degree - especially if you were prior service.

Not common, but it can be done.
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Must be in the Navy. I know that's the topic of conversation, but I find it interseting that in a service where promotions are harder to come by that they'd give this to you. 6 years active duty here. ETSed July of this year and a Reservist currently.

Don't think I'd find anything like that in AR 601-210 unless you were already an E-5.
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Must be in the Navy. I know that's the topic of conversation, but I find it interseting that in a service where promotions are harder to come by that they'd give this to you. 6 years active duty here. ETSed July of this year and a Reservist currently.

Don't think I'd find anything like that in AR 601-210 unless you were already an E-5.
I'm in the Army. One of my fellow trainees was prior service and was promoted to E-5 a few months after Basic. I jumped to E-6 pay myself after graduating Basic, but that was different.
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Well PS depending on the break in service time, professional development schools, and duration of their basic/AIT could equal a promotion.

Like you said then not common, but it can be done.
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Even if you have a college degree you don't come out an E-5 in the Army unless you resigned your commission or something as an officer. You sure the other services have this type of option?

IIRC it's 2 years time in service as an E-4 before you can go to the board even if you have a 4 year degree (Army).
OK actually looked at some of the paperwork I still had, it was E-4 after basic with 2 years worth of college credit. Would have been an E-5 after AIT. I was for the Guard int the early 90's.
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Well PS depending on the break in service time, professional development schools, and duration of their basic/AIT could equal a promotion.

Like you said then not common, but it can be done.
I wasn't prior servicem just to muck it up some more.
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You need to think long and hard before nuke school. You seem tenative here.

The program is 100% applied math & applied science, and is designed (at the beginning) to weed out the non-hackers. They will mess with your head to see if you've got it in you, the upside being that once they've decided you're worth it they'll go to some lengths to help you succeed. It isn't just about learning some stuff out of a book, it's having the level-headedness, level of attention to detail, and ability to cope that they're looking for.

If that's what you're ready for, go for it. I know a lot of people that've done it, and it's served everyone well.

Arr-Pea? Lemme guess, ex-ELT?

Oh, and with big OT that six figures can happen, but we hire at about $30/hour. The old days of nuclear road whores travelling the country working outages has severely scaled back. A nuclear renaissance is likely to change that, so I'd encourage any and all young people interested to look into the nuclear field. All of us current nukes are getting old or taking candy-assed corporate HQ jobs...

For those interested in the nuke business but perhaps not the USN, take a look at these:
http://www.monroeccc.edu/self-study/...%20Program.pdf

http://www.terra.edu/PDFs/programshe...Technology.pdf



Your level of cluelessness is exceeded only by your lack of judgement. STFU.
ELT, no

and big OT = no life, been there done that. I call a 6 figure income what would be your base income.
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You need to think long and hard before nuke school. You seem tenative here.

The program is 100% applied math & applied science, and is designed (at the beginning) to weed out the non-hackers. They will mess with your head to see if you've got it in you, the upside being that once they've decided you're worth it they'll go to some lengths to help you succeed. It isn't just about learning some stuff out of a book, it's having the level-headedness, level of attention to detail, and ability to cope that they're looking for.

If that's what you're ready for, go for it. I know a lot of people that've done it, and it's served everyone well.

Arr-Pea? Lemme guess, ex-ELT?

Oh, and with big OT that six figures can happen, but we hire at about $30/hour. The old days of nuclear road whores travelling the country working outages has severely scaled back. A nuclear renaissance is likely to change that, so I'd encourage any and all young people interested to look into the nuclear field. All of us current nukes are getting old or taking candy-assed corporate HQ jobs...

For those interested in the nuke business but perhaps not the USN, take a look at these:
http://www.monroeccc.edu/self-study/...%20Program.pdf

http://www.terra.edu/PDFs/programshe...Technology.pdf



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