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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:09 PM   #1
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1966 Chevrolet C-10 (TourMater)

I picked up a decent condition 1966 C-10 that Gmotox was selling for a friend. I was looking for a project that my wife and I could work on together (and she really likes single-cab pickups).

It was a Utah truck until a few years ago, and it still is pretty rusty in places - but the frame and everything else is in great shape - well, that is, before I spent some time lying beneath it changing oil. Truck looks like it was hit fairly hard in the front end and had to have the doghouse replaced. Frame rails ahead of the front suspension crossmember are hosed - need to take it to a frame shop and see what they have to say about it. Truck goes down the road good - but the bed looks a bit tweaked. All-in-all, it is a 43 year-old truck, and shit happens. Hoping the frame is fine or can be easily fixed - I will probably cut out the bent parts and weld in new frame rails ahead of the engine.

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It's a plain-jane 66 C-10 with a 195 hp 283 driving the rear wheels through a (I think) Saginaw 4-speed. Single-circuit 4 wheel drum brakes (the parking brake still works!)

Plans:
  • Replace braking system with modern dual-circuit power MC and disc brakes
  • All new suspension bushings, TREs, springs, shocks and add swaybars
  • Power steering if I can find a setup that isn't over-boosted like the old GM setups
  • Relocate fuel tank from cab to behind the rear axle (under the bed)
  • Cut out all rust and weld in patch panels
  • Redo the wiring harness
  • Lower 3" in front, 4" in rear
  • Nasty SBC to pose as the original 283

Looking for a MIG welder to get the party started!

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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:13 PM   #2
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Sounds like a good plan. Good looking truck. I wish mine was a fleetside instead of a step side.

I just eliminated the power steering on my 1970.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:16 PM   #3
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I just eliminated the power steering on my 1970.

Not getting enough exercise at the gym?

It's gotta be like 100 turns, lock-to-lock in my 66.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:22 PM   #4
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Not getting enough exercise at the gym?

It's gotta be like 100 turns, lock-to-lock in my 66.
Turning is over rated.

What kind of small block are you looking to run ? My buddy is looking to sell a 5.3 with a 4L80E for $900 if your interested.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:26 PM   #5
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A bit of electrical work...

Wiring is a bit "custom" and the battery cables were in horrible shape - so I started out changing things I can w/o lots of work.

Mmmmm....um, teeny cables....


ZOMG! Battery box!


Cleaning everything with bicarbonate of soda:




Black hammer paint I had lying around - mostly just for short-term protection:


Finished:



(please note polish anti-theft device)

See ya!




One last thing - is a V8 tailpipe supposed to be this small? It sure is cute...
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:29 PM   #6
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Turning is over rated.

What kind of small block are you looking to run ? My buddy is looking to sell a 5.3 with a 4L80E for $900 if your interested.
My initial plan was a L33 all aluminum 5.3 like Jesus just got - except my wife likes the stinky exhaust, carb fussiness and gear whine. She says it reminds her of the car her dad had when she was growing up in Russia.

So... I'm looking for something between a 377 and a 406 to disguise as a stock 283 with mild hop-up parts.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:32 PM   #7
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nice looking truck,looks like a cool project
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:34 PM   #8
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My initial plan was a L33 all aluminum 5.3 like Jesus just got - except my wife likes the stinky exhaust, carb fussiness and gear whine. She says it reminds her of the car her dad had when she was growing up in Russia.

So... I'm looking for something between a 377 and a 406 to disguise as a stock 283 with mild hop-up parts.
Trust me that is the easier way to go. All the wiring and everything was a pain in the ass.

I'm gonna subscribe to this thread maybe I will be able to steal some of your ideas.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:46 PM   #9
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Trust me that is the easier way to go. All the wiring and everything was a pain in the ass.

I'm gonna subscribe to this thread maybe I will be able to steal some of your ideas.
You're welcome to steal any and all ideas.

Also - making an L33 (or any modern Chebby powertrain work would be easier for me because I have have access to things John Q Public doesn't )
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:34 PM   #10
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My initial plan was a L33 all aluminum 5.3 like Jesus just got - except my wife likes the stinky exhaust, carb fussiness and gear whine. She says it reminds her of the car her dad had when she was growing up in Russia.

So... I'm looking for something between a 377 and a 406 to disguise as a stock 283 with mild hop-up parts.
very nice looking Chevy. If it was a GMC id be in love but a Chevy will do :) You could always run a nasty Motown 427 or 454ci SBC :) Spendy, but no one would ever guess on its size and power.

http://www.worldcastings.com/product...rt-blocks.html

Or just convert a LS motor to run on a carb. You and your wifey could have the best of both worlds that way.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 06:35 AM   #11
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very nice looking Chevy. If it was a GMC id be in love but a Chevy will do :)
Take a closer look at the grille. The previous owner put a GMC grille on it - I like the looks of it better.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 08:22 AM   #12
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Looks cool :)

I ended up getting my motor from a guy on pirate

Complete used GM 5.3s 6.0s and more - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

Very easy to work with, good pirces on a whole changeover, shipped to my door, as I am lazy.


I like Skoot's idea, toss on a carb intake on a 6.0 liter and throw in a big cam. They make stupid power, just need to get the ignition sorted out, but there are solutions for that.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 08:45 AM   #13
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Go carbureted LS1.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 08:50 AM   #14
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Please for the love of everything don't carb a LS motor.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 08:57 AM   #15
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Please for the love of everything don't carb a LS motor.
Why not? People do it all the time. In fact Edelbrock sells a kit for it. You get the modern spark / timing without all the wiring and additional components that fuel injection requires. Aside from that the power has been proven to be identical to EFI.
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If the front end is all twisted, and since you plan on dropping it in front, you might just put a diffrent sub-frame up front that has the modern amenities like larger disc brakes, better front end geometry, and better steering.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 09:07 AM   #17
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If the front end is all twisted, and since you plan on dropping it in front, you might just put a diffrent sub-frame up front that has the modern amenities like larger disc brakes, better front end geometry, and better steering.
That's a good idea.
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Please for the love of everything don't carb a LS motor.
Ditto on this. I don't understand the idea of spending a bunch of money and being stuck with some level of electronics to decode the crank target to spark the dumb thing.

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Why not? People do it all the time. In fact Edelbrock sells a kit for it. You get the modern spark / timing without all the wiring and additional components that fuel injection requires. Aside from that the power has been proven to be identical to EFI.
So what do you gain? For $500 (or less) you can get the computer reprogrammed and a new or reworked harness that requires less wiring than what it would take to hook up the crank decoder.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 09:22 AM   #19
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Why not? People do it all the time. In fact Edelbrock sells a kit for it. You get the modern spark / timing without all the wiring and additional components that fuel injection requires. Aside from that the power has been proven to be identical to EFI.
Just because people do it all the time does not mean it is a good idea. I have not seen a carb'd ls motor make power identical to fuel injection. My friend was looking at putting a carb on the ls1 in his pick up and all the dyno charts and info he showed me the carb was making in the area of 10-15% less power.

But everyone is entitled to do and say what they want.

As I have wired up my entire truck for fuel injection for my 6.0 in an almost identical truck I will say that a carb'd 454 would have been a much easier route to go.

As for the updating the steering I think it is all in preference because my 70 c10 with a 6.0 does not even have power steering. But disc brakes are in it's near future.
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Just because people do it all the time does not mean it is a good idea. I have not seen a carb'd ls motor make power identical to fuel injection. My friend was looking at putting a carb on the ls1 in his pick up and all the dyno charts and info he showed me the carb was making in the area of 10-15% less power.

But everyone is entitled to do and say what they want.

As I have wired up my entire truck for fuel injection for my 6.0 in an almost identical truck I will say that a carb'd 454 would have been a much easier route to go.

As for the updating the steering I think it is all in preference because my 70 c10 with a 6.0 does not even have power steering. But disc brakes are in it's near future.
No arguments, it was just a suggestion because I am going to do this in my 85 chevy.

Here is a chart showing EFI vs carb power with the edelbrock system.
http://image.customrodder.com/f/8944..._carb_11_z.jpg

Here is a link to the write up.
http://www.customrodder.com/tech/051...all/index.html
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