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Old October 25th, 2009, 01:01 PM   #21
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wow, a little testy are we..
Its not 100% serious there. But it does get tiring when people come in and want to tell you why you should do things the way THEY think it should be done, even when its nonsensical like trying to put CJ7 doors on a CJ6.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 01:17 PM   #22
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Its not 100% serious there. But it does get tiring when people come in and want to tell you why you should do things the way THEY think it should be done, even when its nonsensical like trying to put CJ7 doors on a CJ6.
you should totally take out the older style jeep on the sides and weld in the newer cj/yj etc versions, just to update it.



j/k this project is totally awsome. I love the cj6's. I once saw a cj-6 (ambulance version?) with an elongated pass/side door opening and two stretcher poll openings in the tailgate. I cant wait to see your project come to fruition.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 02:11 PM   #23
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Its not 100% serious there. But it does get tiring when people come in and want to tell you why you should do things the way

happens all the time on here, you should be use to it.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 04:01 PM   #24
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Got a touch more done today. The old frame was designed originally for a leaf sprung flatfender, with a chopped rear tub. So it was very simple just ---\____/----

For this, I needed to lengthen the tub in all 3 areas, and lower the front and rear bumpers down a bit. So, I added 14" to the rear of the frame, 5.75" to the center, and 7" to the front bumper area.

I also decided to change the width. The old frame was straight rails all the way back, 31.25" wide. I am making the front 32" wide, and then flaring the center and back to 40" wide. That gives me a little more room in the front to clear the engine and steering and room to fit a TJ tank or similar between the rear rails.

I still need to finish the front stretch, the center and rear are basically in. Once I get the drivetrian in, I'll add some crossmembers to stiffen it up.




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Old October 25th, 2009, 04:31 PM   #25
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looks like its comming along nicely, nice work
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Old October 25th, 2009, 04:34 PM   #26
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Because it'd not work,....I'm sorry my body choice doesn't make you happy. What was I thinking...
Whoa! Missed my intent totally! Don't get me wrong, I love your project just as much as the last one, anything that isn't a cookie cutter Jeep is aces in my book (Ha, I wheeled a YJ with a short CJ front clip and grafted early windshield hinges to CJ-7 ones so my windshield frame would lift off)

You're right on the '72-'75 CJ-6 look...I just always like the short-front look, but it does make V8 swaps a bitch. I just figured with the soft-top makers now making more modern type soft tops (with 2-peice soft doors) for the older rigs you may be able to fit a CJ-7 SOFT door on your rig, makes for a little easier ingress/egress with kids and the inevetable spare tire that comes with age.

Keep up the good work and I will keep my suggestions to myself....until I can't stand it anymore.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 06:19 PM   #27
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Whoa! Missed my intent totally! Don't get me wrong, I love your project just as much as the last one, anything that isn't a cookie cutter Jeep is aces in my book (Ha, I wheeled a YJ with a short CJ front clip and grafted early windshield hinges to CJ-7 ones so my windshield frame would lift off)

You're right on the '72-'75 CJ-6 look...I just always like the short-front look, but it does make V8 swaps a bitch. I just figured with the soft-top makers now making more modern type soft tops (with 2-peice soft doors) for the older rigs you may be able to fit a CJ-7 SOFT door on your rig, makes for a little easier ingress/egress with kids and the inevetable spare tire that comes with age.

Keep up the good work and I will keep my suggestions to myself....until I can't stand it anymore.
hehhe, never take me too seriously.

As far as I can tell, the only soft top still on the market is the bestop tiger top. It would have been nice if they made the super tops for it.

Actually, i liked the short front nose as well. I really thought long and hard about it, and have a couple V6s for this, but I wanted to have power to spare. The Jeep actually had been running a 383 in it, so it could conceivably be done.

But I figure it'll be better to have more room to make sure I have adequate cooling.

The original fenders were also not all that solid, and I have a good pair of longer fenders in much much better shape.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 07:48 AM   #28
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Looks great so far, 6's are awesome! Subscribed...
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Old October 27th, 2009, 02:58 PM   #29
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Old October 27th, 2009, 08:34 PM   #30
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Hehehe, long ways off. I need to look through the wiring diagrams to see if I want to even try tackling the harness or have someone do it.
Wat?

You get me the donor vehicle info, I'll get you the diagram. I put stuff where it doesn't belong all the time at work - it's not that bad.
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Old October 27th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #31
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Old October 27th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #32
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Wat?

You get me the donor vehicle info, I'll get you the diagram. I put stuff where it doesn't belong all the time at work - it's not that bad.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 09:50 AM   #33
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needs a manual Valve body. no wait.. bad idea.. no.. get one!
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Old October 28th, 2009, 11:31 AM   #34
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I wanna see it done !!!! :D
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Old October 28th, 2009, 09:15 PM   #35
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Thanks for selling me the cage, good luck on the build
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Old November 4th, 2009, 01:55 PM   #36
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Because it'd not work, thats why.

The 1969 tub is the same as the 72-75 intermediate tubs, as is the windshield.

The 1972-75 intermediates had the long front clip. The grill on it already is an intermediate.

So it'll look like a correct intermediate 72-75 model.

Now, if I was to put CJ7 door opening on it, it'd look wierd, because it'd be a bastardized look. But, more importantly, the doors and soft top would have to be custom, or I'd need major tub surgery.

First, obviously, you'd have to cut door frames out of something else, and weld them into this. But, the big issue is the windshield. The CJ7s have a 76+ style windshield that have a 55" width, more rake, different hinges, even the tub top is different where/how the hinges bolt on. The 69 windshield is the same as the 72-75 windshield, 59" wide, more vertical, different hinges, etc.

So CJ7 doors won't fit the CJ6 windshield and a CJ6 tub won't easily take a CJ7 windshield.

If you successfully grafted both the doors and the windshield, then you'd have to find a 76+ soft top, which isn't available anymore from what Iv'e seen since 75 was the last year for domestic CJ6s. A few rare tops exist (I know someone with one), but I want something new and that I can get replacement parts for if needed.


I wheeled an intermediate CJ5 for years, I have no problem with the doors. But thanks for hating on my project. I'm sorry my body choice doesn't make you happy. What was I thinking...


Too bad about the cj3b project, was looking forward to seeing it finished. Like the new project, hope to see this one actually completed
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Old November 5th, 2009, 09:12 AM   #37
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If you want to keep the short fender look but make the V8 swap easier, put a long hood on it with short fenders, Cut the fenders in the middle(top of the wheel arch) and add the needed length. I saw a CJ5 done that way and you couldn't tell unless you really looked at it.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #38
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Cool! I saw "Untamed" a few years ago in Cooter's barn. Cool-looking rig...I think you should keep the retro-faded paint scheme!

Speaking of Cooter, I need to check in with him soon. I haven't talked to him in quite a spell.

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Old November 7th, 2009, 11:00 AM   #39
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Definately keep the retro - paint.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 11:10 AM   #40
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how in the world did you manage to get a motor from a 07 silverado? salvage?
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