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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:35 PM   #21
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It's our second season with our Wood Stove. We spend nothing on propane last season.
Burned 10 Full Chords last year total. I was told it was a pretty harsh winter and therefore used more wood then an average season, by someone with the same stove and comparable house. The thrill of cutting wood wears off towards the end of the season, but it's still worth it. I'm still very glad we put one in.
Yeah from what I hear everyone burned a little more than they figured last winter. 10 cords is a lot! I agree the thrill of cutting wood will wear off but better then the thrill of going broke every month trying to pay the gas bill! and it's not so bad I have a three friends we all cut wood together and when the saw and splitter are put away time to drink a few beers and stack away!
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:40 PM   #22
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I went from $200 gas bills to $40 gas bills in the winter. All from switching to a 99% efficient gas fire place.

My house would stay at 75 non-stop with it left on low 24 hours a day..
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:43 PM   #23
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I went from $200 gas bills to $40 gas bills in the winter. All from switching to a 99% efficient gas fire place.

My house would stay at 75 non-stop with it left on low 24 hours a day..
What is the price of one of those?
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When I had a wood burner I would go out in the spring and cut wood every other weekend until my wood shed was full, it could hold 10 cords. By time it was to fire up the stove for the winter I was set and ready to burn dry wood.I would look for dead stand trees or dead fall from the wind. It was great until after 5 years then I was getting tired of cutting wood.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:47 PM   #26
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My uncle lives in the U.P and heats his house with wood, and like he says he gets heat three time from it, 1cutting the wood, 2 stacking all the wood, then burning the wood.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:52 PM   #27
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Yeah from what I hear everyone burned a little more than they figured last winter. 10 cords is a lot! I agree the thrill of cutting wood will wear off but better then the thrill of going broke every month trying to pay the gas bill! and it's not so bad I have a three friends we all cut wood together and when the saw and splitter are put away time to drink a few beers and stack away!

Yep, going broke is no fun.
10 Chords was a lot, but I started out burning softer type wood like maple, and downed junk, but ended up towards mid winter with a good supply of Hard Wood. Then, it took a few weeks to find my Burning Mo-Jo with the stove. So, I may have went through a little more wood then most people. They (The Sales People) don't really prep you for how much it's actually gona burn though.

The one thing I did miss this summer was the Endless Hot Water Supply!
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Old October 14th, 2009, 10:12 PM   #28
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Yep, going broke is no fun.
10 Chords was a lot, but I started out burning softer type wood like maple, and downed junk, but ended up towards mid winter with a good supply of Hard Wood. Then, it took a few weeks to find my Burning Mo-Jo with the stove. So, I may have went through a little more wood then most people. They (The Sales People) don't really prep you for how much it's actually gona burn though.

The one thing I did miss this summer was the Endless Hot Water Supply!
Yeah, I am going through a learning process right now. I don't think I am burning my stove quite hot enough, great for wood conservation, bad for creosote. I am going to keep a close eye on my chimney.
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had one my entire life all 26 years and for the last 10 or so it was my responibilty to heat the house and i still dont mind cuttin splittin and stackin and when i get my own house i will be sure to get a stove its awesome!
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i heat my garage with wood also. it too gets hot enough to have the door open. love it!!
i went through 3 cord last year but i am only out there on the weekends in the winter.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:00 AM   #31
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I am heating my whole house with 2 little Kerosene heaters running on Biodiesel. So far I have not had to turn on the furnace at all this year. I found someone locally that is selling me the Biodiesel for $1 a gallon...I expect to be able to heat my house for between $30 and $60 a month all winter. $60 a month if I run both heaters all day and all night...they each use about a gallon a day. We have a 2500sq ft farm house that is poorly insulated and last year our highest gas bill was like $650 for one month
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I'm installing my wood,coal combo stove right now in the basement hope to heat the whole house with it stove is designed to heat 2000sq ft and my house is 1900sq ft so may half to have some extra fans in basement to help move air around a little bit more
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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:28 AM   #33
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What is the price of one of those?
I paid $799 for mine, but that came with a wireless t-stat and a remote control. You can get them for closer to $400 with the manual fuel regulator.

I already had a real fireplace in my house, so I converted to gas. With these 99% efficient fire logs, you close the flue so you get "all" of the heat.

The upside is if I leave that on low, it will literally make my house over 70 all day, even on the coldest days, the downside, the byproduct of burning natural gas = water. If I ran it for 24 hours straight, I would have 85-90% humidity in the house which isn't any good. I did that math, and bought an 80 pint dehumidifier which runs probably 6-7 hours a day, and keeps the humidity around 55-60% which is nice. The first three years I lived in the house my winter bills were around $200 a month, after the fireplace they went down to $40-$55 a month. On the other hand, my electricity bill went from $110-$120 to $150-$160 a month. So in the end, over the winter months I'm ahead around $100 a month which would be a break even point of three years for my house. I think I paid $400ish for the dehumidifier.

Many other people have experienced great heat, and less humidity by opening the flue an inch or two to allow some humidity to escape.

BTW, I've turned on the fire to high before, forgot about it, and was dicking around in the yard, came back in and my house was 86 degrees...



another thought, online you will see people complaining about a soot, or browning of where the fireplace sits. I can say that in three years, i've not experienced any browning at all, and my mantle is all white, I have white crown molding, and a white ceiling and I've not had any "soot" from mine at all.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 08:50 AM   #34
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links to the one you have or ones you considered?
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I have thought about a ventless propane (I imagine yours is natural gas = simular) in my house also. It would work well with my wood stove to ballance the humidity.
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I have 4 natural gas fireplaces in my house, two need new inserts. I am buying a vent free 32,000 btu from Lowes for $280. It only has manual controls but if i like it enough i will move that one to a less used location and get one with a t-stat and remote. I plan on picking it up today.

BTW if anyone is interested in an LP vent free insert, i ordered one accidentally. I paid $250 with shipping, but will sell it to anyone on here for $230 because i dont want to go through the hassle of returning it.

http://www.hardwareworld.com/31000BT...g-pIRUAFH.aspx

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my exact model isn't made anymore, but it is pretty damn close to this:
http://www.gaslogguys.com/item_name_...source=froogle

Another thing, the cheaper the regulator, the more problem with "sooting" from all the reviews I read.
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...and my mantle is all white, I have white crown molding, and a white ceiling and I've not had any "soot" from mine at all.
I am SO not surprised.
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my exact model isn't made anymore, but it is pretty damn close to this:
http://www.gaslogguys.com/item_name_...source=froogle

Another thing, the cheaper the regulator, the more problem with "sooting" from all the reviews I read.
For any insert that has either a t-stat or remote, electricity has to be run to it, right? How else would the remote work?
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