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Old July 5th, 2006, 03:22 PM   #1
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Old July 5th, 2006, 03:27 PM   #2
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You're kidding, right?
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Old July 5th, 2006, 03:45 PM   #3
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Me? I kid you not. I asked everyone to discuss. Notice I remain without comment. I merely want to observe said discussion.
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Old July 5th, 2006, 05:36 PM   #4
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there is a lot of information out there that is not in the mainstream media. that points in that direction.
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Old July 5th, 2006, 08:22 PM   #5
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I really think we need to have another witch hunt similar to the red scare and start executing idiots.
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Old July 5th, 2006, 08:57 PM   #6
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....this thing doesn't even diserve comment..........of course you can get mine from the tone of my first six words.
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In nine pertinent playing cards of the "Illuminati New World Order" Game, how did the inventor know -- in 1995 -- the three events comprising the 9/11 attacks?
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Even though I don't want to admit that I think my own country would do something like this it seems that W and his band of monkeys are good candidates to have this done.

Kinda like when Roosevelt sent all the Aircraft carriers out of Pearl Harbor right before the attack . . . interesting, very intersting.
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The freedom of speech. It means that even nutballs can tell their stories. The have been nutjobs before all of this, and there will be nutjobs after.

Personally, I find conspiracy theories interesting. They're always so thorough, leaving no loose ends or messy random occurences. So much neater than real life.
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Old July 9th, 2006, 06:56 PM   #10
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The freedom of speech. It means that even nutballs can tell their stories. The have been nutjobs before all of this, and there will be nutjobs after.

Personally, I find conspiracy theories interesting. They're always so thorough, leaving no loose ends or messy random occurences. So much neater than real life.

Very well said
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Even though I don't want to admit that I think my own country would do something like this it seems that W and his band of monkeys are good candidates to have this done.

Kinda like when Roosevelt sent all the Aircraft carriers out of Pearl Harbor right before the attack . . . interesting, very intersting.

USS Enterprise had just delivered planes to WI and was enroute to Pearl at the time of the attack.
USS Lexington was enroute to MI to deliver planes.
USS Saratoga was at NAS San Diego at the time of the attack due to having just completed a major over-haul at Puget Sound.

These three ships comprised the carrier arm of the Pacific Fleet. They were under the command of Admiral Kimmel. Then, as now, the President cannot dispatch fleet assests at will.

As for the inferred notion that these assets were moved to "save" them, that is a rather sophomoric and dated argument. If, in fact, the USN had prior knowledge of an attack, all assets would have been better utilized by being put on station off the Northern and western approches to the Hawaiian Islands....they then would have been able to simultaneously attack the in-bound waves while launching a strike of their own at the Japanese carrier force. This would have denied unchallenged approach to Pearl and seriously compromised the ability of the Japanese force to recover their planes and launch a second wave( their fleet maintained virtually no CAP during the attack ). Advantage: USN

The resulting attack, while surely resulting in American losses, would have had a much better result for the USN. Also, the public outrage would still have been sufficient to propel us into the war. Advantage: USN


Unfortunately, since no hard data existed of an impending and direct assault on Pearl, bad timing and chance allowed the Japanese to inflict a serious blow to our fleet




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Regardless, you can spin stuff lots of ways but they defiantly put together a good package. Even if you don't belive it and I'm not sure what I belive but it raises lots of questions.

I have lots of problem with novice pilots being able to hit those targets.
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I have lots of problem with novice pilots being able to hit those targets.
Two of the four didn't.

The Pentagon was a near-miss (albeit still causing a lot of damage as a large, fully-fueled aircraft would). The one down in PA was definitely a "miss".

And, a hit on the lower floors of the WTC would've drastically increased the death toll. So, although those were "hits", they could've been much worse.

I saw (literally) an A-7 hit a Ramada Inn in Indianapolis - went right through the front door / lobby and stopped when it hit the elevator / stairway core of the building. All of the escape paths were blocked, and flames started working their way up. Technically, it was a "perfect hit". Fortunately, the hotel's occupancy was low and the FD was there quickly (already alerted by the pilot calling for help and parachuting down a mile or so away). That same type of hit on the WTC would've been much, much more deadly - even if it didn't bring the towers down (not that I think they anticipated that in their planning).
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