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Old November 9th, 2015, 07:20 PM   #1
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Figured I'd make a thread to log my progress more than anything, as it's not much to show off. My name is Luke for those who don't know me, and I got the jeep bug growing up at Silver Lake as a kid. Current college student, hence the title.

Well, I picked this jeep up last November from @thatjeepguy needing a bit of work. This is the day I brought it home, pulling it with my dads 5.9.



It supposedly had lincoln locked axles, weather checked 35's with little tread, and 116k on the clock. Here's a picture of the first day it was home.



I spent the next month swapping in an 8.8 rear and trussed hp30, as well as tossing some 33's on it. At some point I also replaced the shocks with Bilstein 5100's.

I daily drove it like this until this Summer, when I broke it too much and too often to consider it a daily anymore. After a long weekend at Silver Lake and quite a bit of carnage, I ended up ripping my axle bridge off on exit hill after my last run through the dunes before heading home. Ended up driving the 2 and a half hours home like this



I ended up buying a Subaru a week or two later, which provided some much relief of DD duty for the 'ol heep.



A bit later, I ended up welding this shock cage to help replace some broken rear shock mounts from another Silver Lake trip. I ordered some FOA 14" 2.0's with Reservoirs and went to work burning it in and patching some rust holes. Here are some pics:



I also dropped it down an inch or two at some point, and replaced the leaves in the rear with full leaf packs. Stuck a 10k engo winch on the front, too.










Wheeled it like this until about a month ago.

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Looks good!
Where are you going to college?
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Old November 9th, 2015, 07:27 PM   #3
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Today, I got all my steering, trackbar, and front axle out from under the jeep. I plan to install a front 44 and rear 60 this winter. Both axles are from an f250, rear is from a 77 and front is from a 79. Front will probably be open to now, rear has a full spool and complete Yukon shafts, as well as disc brake conversion. High steer isn't in the budget right now but I plan to run a crossover steering setup. Will be running 4.56 gears.

I bought a pair of 36x13.5x15 Iroks the other day, so I will probably buy a few more and run those. My only concerns are running 15" rims fitment with the front axle brakes, anyone have any experience with that?

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Today, I got all my steering, trackbar, and front axle out from under the jeep. I plan to install a front 44 and rear 60 this winter. Both axles are from an f250, rear is from a 77 and front is from a 79. Front will probably be open to now, rear has a full spool and complete Yukon shafts, as well as disc brake conversion. High steer isn't in the budget right now but I plan to run a crossover steering setup.

I bought a pair of 36x13.5x15 Iroks the other day, so I will probably buy a few more and run those. My only concerns are running 15" rims fitment with the front axle brakes, anyone have any experience with that?
u will have to buy the aftermarket brackets to run chevy calipers to clear a 15" wheels
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Looks good!
Where are you going to college?
Thanks! I am currently at my last semester at KVCC, and will be attending Davenport for the Spring Semester starting in January. I will hopefully graduate this time next fall with a general business degree. It will be my 3rd school in 4 years, ha-ha.

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u will have to buy the aftermarket brackets to run chevy calipers to clear a 15" wheels
That's what I'm going to do for the back. However, I read somewhere that people were able to grind down the dual piston calipers to allow a 15" rim to fit and was wondering if that is also a possibility.

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Other than the axle swaps, I've got a few other things on my list for this winter:

- Pull transfer case, add new speed sensor and output shaft speed sensor gear
- While case is apart fix shift linkage (Will shift into 4wd manually but not inside cab)
- Figure out some hood vents
- Relocate winch control box so front bumper bar doesn't block the plug spot
- Pull rear JCR armor and repaint it

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yes grinding works too but u have to grind alot of material off to clear unless u get a high offset rim.
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Thanks! I am currently at my last semester at KVCC, and will be attending Davenport for the Spring Semester starting in January. I will hopefully graduate this time next fall with a general business degree. It will be my 3rd school in 4 years, ha-ha.



That's what I'm going to do for the back. However, I read somewhere that people were able to grind down the dual piston calipers to allow a 15" rim to fit and was wondering if that is also a possibility.

Pics from today:




Other than the axle swaps, I've got a few other things on my list for this winter:

- Pull transfer case, add new speed sensor and output shaft speed sensor gear
- While case is apart fix shift linkage (Will shift into 4wd manually but not inside cab)
- Figure out some hood vents
- Relocate winch control box so front bumper bar doesn't block the plug spot
Do something like Aaron Kaufman did on his falcon, I think that'd look pretty sweet.


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yes grinding works too but u have to grind alot of material off to clear unless u get a high offset rim.
But grinding is soooo fun,
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Rear axle is pulled. Now just to sell this crap so I can finish my axles.

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Pending sale tomorrow on all my old axles and steering, which means more money for goodies. Also picking up a new 60 housing with straight spindles so I can swap everything over.
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Well it was a big day! Sold both my old axles and all my steering! Got my drive shafts pulled in anticipation of pulling my transfer case and new bastard u-joints.

Ordered a mini truss/bridge from Synergy for my top link mount:
http://www.synergymfg.com/Synergy-DA...E-p-31001.html
I really like the way it ties into the diff cover, and for the cost I couldn't beat it. The next closest came in around $200

Ordered some steering:
http://www.barnes4wd.com/Heavy-Duty-...ims_p_136.html

Ordered my trackbar, went with outside frame mount and axle side centered mount:
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...w=&range_high=

Going to run out to the garage tomorrow and measure my tube size. Apparently the 79 f250 dana 44's varied from 2.75-3". I'm hoping mine is a 3". If it is, I'm going to order a pair of these:
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...bo_p_1461.html

Can't wait for it all to show up so I can get this front end in there. I also picked up another rear dana 60 housing today. Going to go ahead and swap everything over from my current 60. This will do three things:

1) Account for the bent spindle on my current 60

2) Rid me of the huge bulky truss/4 link bracketry

3) Allow me to regear from 5.38 to 4.56 to match the front

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Got a little done in between class today. Got the new housing stripped down completely. Tore the drums off. Got my disc brake stuff off the other axle to swap over. Gonna throw some paint on it and reassemble with the 4.56's and spool.
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Old November 18th, 2015, 05:16 PM   #13
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you have a long arm set up in the front already? just checking dont think you will be able to use the coil buckets with short arm. i went with the ones with out the shock mounts on them. work good.
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you have a long arm set up in the front already? just checking dont think you will be able to use the coil buckets with short arm. i went with the ones with out the shock mounts on them. work good.
Yeah I've got a custom 3 link. It's more of a mid arm setup, but definitely not a short arm. Do you think they'll fit?

By the way I've read through your entire build thread a few times.. nice rig
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Right around this time last year is when I bought this thing. Got the brackets lined up and tacked in place, as well as wire wheeled the entire housing. New paint on housing and disc brake brackets. It's ready for the spool and 4.56 from the other housing!

Heim ends also came from Barnes 4wd today so it's time to mock up a tie rod and drag link, too.






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Well between Thanksgiving, Finals, and working crazy hours over break, I haven't made much progress. I did get the rear axle back today from @sbcrichie who re-geared the rear for me. He does awesome work for anyone interested I would highly recommend checking out R&R Fabwerks. Rear is now spooled with 4.56's. The front is matched with 4.56 but open as of now.



Once I made it back into town, I re-checked my pinion angle and burned the leaf spring brackets in for good.



Now all that's needed to get the rear end under the jeep is a bit of paint freshening, some new break pads, ubolts, and to fab up some spring plates w/shock mounts.

Been going back and forth about welding my front gears. With the lockout I can see it being streetable, but I think I may have a hard time turning the 36" iroks (measure closer to 37's) without hydro assist, and I'm not quite ready to go with assist yet. Any opinions or thoughts on this? Preferably someone who has done some street driving and wheeling with a welded front.
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Been going back and forth about welding my front gears. With the lockout I can see it being streetable, but I think I may have a hard time turning the 36" iroks (measure closer to 37's) without hydro assist, and I'm not quite ready to go with assist yet. Any opinions or thoughts on this? Preferably someone who has done some street driving and wheeling with a welded front.
Why aren't you ready to go assist? Budget issue or something else?
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Well between Thanksgiving, Finals, and working crazy hours over break, I haven't made much progress. I did get the rear axle back today from @sbcrichie who re-geared the rear for me. He does awesome work for anyone interested I would highly recommend checking out R&R Fabwerks. Rear is now spooled with 4.56's. The front is matched with 4.56 but open as of now.



Once I made it back into town, I re-checked my pinion angle and burned the leaf spring brackets in for good.



Now all that's needed to get the rear end under the jeep is a bit of paint freshening, some new break pads, ubolts, and to fab up some spring plates w/shock mounts.

Been going back and forth about welding my front gears. With the lockout I can see it being streetable, but I think I may have a hard time turning the 36" iroks (measure closer to 37's) without hydro assist, and I'm not quite ready to go with assist yet. Any opinions or thoughts on this? Preferably someone who has done some street driving and wheeling with a welded front.

I k ow when my Detroit locks up in the front it's no fun on the trail, I couldn't imagine with it welded
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Why aren't you ready to go assist? Budget issue or something else?
Yeah it will be on my to-do list, I've just got a few other things I need to focus my money on first. At this point I've really only wheeled once since August, as it's been down for one repair or another. I really just want to get it wheelable again.

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I k ow when my Detroit locks up in the front it's no fun on the trail, I couldn't imagine with it welded
That was my thought.. It would be a real fun sucker to have to get out and unlock a hub on every turn.
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