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Old October 5th, 2009, 06:46 PM   #1
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I'm not sure if everyone heard about this or not, but last week in Atlanta, a womans car was carried away in a flood, and she was not able to get out of her vehicle. She was on phone with the 911 operator and I guess she was not able to break a window, or open any doors. She ended up drowning in her car.

I was talking with a couple of Raleigh's Finest about this today, and apparently breaking a car window, while sitting in the car can be pretty difficult. One of the officers talked about something called "ResQme" http://www.resqme.com/ its a little spring loaded punch that can be carried on a key ring, and supposedly it makes really quick work of passenger windows, I think this is the same company that makes those Life Hammers that you see in the gadgety stores all over the place.

Does anybody have any experience with anything like this? I've been on a really big preparedness kick lately, so I am planning on adding one of these to my every day carry keyring. I just ordered a couple of them, we will see how they work.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 06:49 PM   #2
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Hope you dont drive a new Buick with safety glass. Just like a windshield but in the side windows too.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #3
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you just gave aj another way to break into cars...
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Old October 5th, 2009, 07:03 PM   #4
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most anything with a sharp point will work... take a key with a pointed end, place it in your hand like you would a knife (pointed away from our thumb) and hit the window in a stabbing motion. It will break, unless the glass is safety glass as mentioned.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 07:10 PM   #5
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I would ask why she did not roll the damn window down, but I am sure she tried that!!??? Or maybe she left it up to keep the water out??
Or maybe she was too large to crawl out if it was rolled down?
And like stated above they are difficult to break if you do not have a sharp metal object to hit them with.
I broken dozens, and no I was not breaking in, growing up my friend's dad owned a junk yard and we busted shit for fun.

I was not trying to be a dick here, it really sucks that this kind of thing happens to people and when someone loses a loved one over something that could have and should have never happened. But it makes me wonder how much people can panic and worsen a situation.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #6
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People seem to lose common sense when in a situation. Look at the cop in the rented lexus that killed his family because the floor mat wedged the accl down.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 07:45 PM   #7
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a spring loaded center punch from the local hardware works great as well to shatter the glass and cost very little. just push it.
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Shoot, if it were me I would undo my seatbelt and kick the window out if my fists weren't able to punch through it. That really sucks though, I'd hate to be in that situation nonetheless.
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Just before she drowned, you can assume the pressures equalized and viola she could of opened the door.
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My dad is a fire fighter and I have seen him use something like that to break car windows in training exercises. It's very cool to see them easily shatter the window, I wouldn't mind having one.
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probably couldn't roll the window down as it was electric. I think with using a sharp object in your hand to stab at the window to break it would be more difficult while in water. You may not be able to get enough momentum ??
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Like you I also like being perpaired (Eagle scout ) I keep a Gerber lmf 2 survival knife in my truck at all times, hell I even keep my survial kit in my truck with an old school flint & steel fire starter. I'm always perpaired bitch's
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Like you I also like being perpaired (Eagle scout ) I keep a Gerber lmf 2 survival knife in my truck at all times, hell I even keep my survial kit in my truck with an old school flint & steel fire starter. I'm always perpaired bitch's
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probably couldn't roll the window down as it was electric. I think with using a sharp object in your hand to stab at the window to break it would be more difficult while in water. You may not be able to get enough momentum ??
actually they proved on mythbusters that you could still roll down the electric windows when they put that taurus in a pool.
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Hope you dont drive a new Buick with safety glass. Just like a windshield but in the side windows too.
My fire department was discussing these a few weeks ago. There is in fact such a thing as too safe.
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actually they proved on mythbusters that you could still roll down the electric windows when they put that taurus in a pool.

Mythbusters never really proves anything. Just because something happened for them in one case, doesn't mean anything. I enjoy the show, but its entertainment, not science.

It'd be a toss up, honestly, if stuff worked or didn't. I doubt there is anyone on this site who's designed the electronic controls for them. Well, except for[cue CC laughing here], me, as I designed antipinch windowlift motor controllers for 2 years at Valeo. The electronics aren't usually fully potted and aren't going to like full submersion. Simpler basic relay systems would likely be ok for short term.



A rescue hammer is pretty basic and fool proof. Just not as cool-gadgety as a spring loaded punch. As noted, a good spring loaded center punch would work. But a rescue hammer is nice a big, can cut belts, and easy to smash a window. A small punch is easier to lose.
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probably couldn't roll the window down as it was electric. I think with using a sharp object in your hand to stab at the window to break it would be more difficult while in water. You may not be able to get enough momentum ??
if your arms are already under water then you could most likely just open the door when the pressure equalizes
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i keep one of these in my truck. also doubles as a anti car jacking implement. lol

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xmas gifts for all my family a few years ago
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...Itemnumber=621

even tested it on a parts xj i had at the time. works great.
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Like you I also like being perpaired (Eagle scout ) I keep a Gerber lmf 2 survival knife in my truck at all times, hell I even keep my survial kit in my truck with an old school flint & steel fire starter. I'm always perpaired bitch's
Alright boss, heres my vehicle kit...


I use most of the stuff pretty regularly for making lunch when out doing day hikes and such.

This is my bag that pretty much goes everywhere with me. Day hikes, geocaching, mountain biking, you name it...


This is what I carry in my pockets every day. If I'm at work, I add in a pair of handcuffs.

This ring is the latest addition... Its a P-51 can opener, firesteel, micro-widgy pry bar, and a Gerber clutch.
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