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Old October 5th, 2009, 09:22 AM   #1
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I got this in an e-mail, not sure if it is true or not I thought I would post it for all to see.

Now all Guns' must be listed
on your next (2010) tax return!

As if we didn't have enough to get upset about!
If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

This bill was introduced on Feb. 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT . .. this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? ..... you must be kidding!
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The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage, U.S. Senate http://www.senate.gov/You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099.

Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S.... OpenCongress<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

-It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.


<Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress) <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> :

<H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S.Congress - OpenCongress <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>

<H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) <http://www..govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>
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Old October 5th, 2009, 10:49 AM   #2
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Those bastards.
Obama is a gun grabbing, taxating, weasel dick, lying mother fucker.


http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=4925

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Friday, May 29, 2009 In the last few weeks, NRA-ILA has received hundreds of e-mails warning us about “SB-2099,” a bill that would supposedly require you to report all your guns on your income tax return every April 15.
Like many rumors, there’s just a grain of truth to this one. Someone’s recycling an old alert, which wasn’t even very accurate when it was new.
There actually was a U.S. Senate bill with that number that would have taxed handguns—nine years ago. It was introduced by anti-gun Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), and it would have included handguns under the National Firearms Act’s tax and registration scheme. This has nothing to do with anyone’s Form 1040, of course.
Fortunately, S. 2099 disappeared without any action by the Senate, back when Bill Clinton was still in the White House. We reported about it back then, just as we report about new anti-gun bills every week. Now, it’s time for gun owners to drop this old distraction and focus on the real threats at hand.
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Obama is not going to take your guns.
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Obama is not going to take your guns.
He will give it a good try though.
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For those that refuse to see he is going to try your blind. I am not saying this is it, just that he will try.

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For those that refuse to see he is going to try your blind. I am not saying this is it, just that he will try.
He has to succeed somewhere, I hope gun control isn't it.

"even a blind chicken pecks a piece of corn now and then"

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Good thing only my hand gun is registered
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For those that refuse to see he is going to try your blind. I am not saying this is it, just that he will try.

Do me a huge favor... just randomly pick 6 numbers for me while thinking the words "Mega Millions".

If you can accurately and reasonably predict that Obama will take away our guns, then you shouldn't have any issue with predicting the lottery... right?

He might try, but I highly doubt it. At least not in this term. After he pledged to lead the ninjas to the promised land this term and can't deliver on those promises, he'll need the votes of the middle ground to make it to a second term. Taking away guns will most likely drive away the ones who might have voted for him, but were on the fence.
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For those that refuse to see he is going to try your blind. I am not saying this is it, just that he will try.
He has put forth zero legislation to do anything near removing guns or ammo, and he has never said anything of the such.

He can't even get health care pushed through, even after preying on ted kennedy's death.. Do you really except him to get anti-gun bills through?

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He has put forth zero legislation to do anything near removing guns or ammo, and he has never said anything of the such.

He can't even get health care pushed through, even after preying on ted kennedy's death.. Do you really except him to get anti-gun bills through?

Expect him to get it through no, try at some point yes.
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Expect him to get it through no, try at some point yes.
are you as good at sucking dicks as you are at predicting the future?
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Why do you ask, do you have something to teach me?
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obama could make a midget on stilts slam dunk his change on the bus


wait what?

never mind
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Why do you ask, do you have something to teach me?
I would attempt to teach you how to research and form your own opinion, but judging from your posts you are beyond help. Now join the rest of the cattle as you are falling behind...loser
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Expect him to get it through no, try at some point yes.
Sure, Obama is the devil, but he's not going to take your guns.

After obama opens the borders and gives all the illegals health care, you will see the republican president (in three years) signing a bill requiring all americans to own handguns so we can't get the illegals back out
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I would attempt to teach you how to research and form your own opinion, but judging from your posts you are beyond help. Now join the rest of the cattle as you are falling behind...loser
I have my own opinion and as stated in the original post just putting it out for all to see what is going around. I did not say I believed it nor did I say I was posting it for all to act on just to see. So in light of your shallow comment about me being like the rest of the cattle and a loser you may be right and you may not be but the evident truth is you will never know as you sit and make comments about people you do not even know. What a shallow and ignorant life you must have. My sympathy goes out to you.

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Sure, Obama is the devil, but he's not going to take your guns.

After obama opens the borders and gives all the illegals health care, you will see the republican president (in three years) signing a bill requiring all americans to own handguns so we can't get the illegals back out
Somehow I can see this. Scary
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Sure, Obama is the devil, but he's not going to take your guns.

After obama opens the borders and gives all the illegals health care, you will see the republican president (in three years) signing a bill requiring all americans to own handguns so we can't get the illegals back out
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Gun_Control
Opposed bill okaying illegal gun use in home invasions. (Aug 2008) (using gun despite gun ban to defend your home)
Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
April 2008: "Bittergate" labeled Obama elitist. (Apr 2008)
Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

I see Obama has a good record on guns. As long as you want them banned. Will he go after guns? I think there is a good chance he will, its only a matter of when he plans it. Hopefully he plans it in his second term and he doesn't get re-elected. But if we ignore his anti-gun anti-Constitution stance he will ban them as he supported in a 1999 questionnaire, when he was running for senate.
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http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#Gun_Control
Opposed bill okaying illegal gun use in home invasions. (Aug 2008) (using gun despite gun ban to defend your home)
Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
April 2008: "Bittergate" labeled Obama elitist. (Apr 2008)
Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

I see Obama has a good record on guns. As long as you want them banned. Will he go after guns? I think there is a good chance he will, its only a matter of when he plans it. Hopefully he plans it in his second term and he doesn't get re-elected. But if we ignore his anti-gun anti-Constitution stance he will ban them as he supported in a 1999 questionnaire, when he was running for senate.
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