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Old September 28th, 2009, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default Want Expert Advice on Backwards Hill Slide

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I am looking for some input on how to best recover from an aborted hill climb that leaves you diagonal or sideways and sliding. I am imagining that if I had a manual that I would clutch it and try to straighten it up for a backwards roll. With an auto, lockers and lo gear, everything is solidly locked and it won't roll backwards. Should I try to stab neutral right away?

Imagine the following video with another 15+ degrees of angle and more ruts - it could be a bad scenario.


I am trying to create some good habits...just in case.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 07:31 AM   #2
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My feeling is it will change each time but if the wheels are still spinning you have a better chance to keep sliding down to the bottem. If you stop completley you have a better chance of hooking something during the slide and flipping over. Small bumps of the throttle is my answer. If you watch nascar you will see when they are sliding they are on the gas also.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 07:50 AM   #3
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good question.


in some cases you can use your e brake to "slow your roll" and straiten out. like a poor mans front dig. it's always differant depending on the rig and driver. the more seat time you get the better the feel or your rig.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 08:49 AM   #4
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I cant see the video but what I alwways try to do is get the vehicle straightened out before I end up stopping completely or getting to where you cant spin the tires to get the vehicle repositioned. If you have to stop in a position that sucks for geting straightened out then your best bet is to try and rear dig and work the steering wheel to get the vehicle as straight as you can before starting to come back and hopefully the front tores dont wash out or it's time to get a strap or cable on it.

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Old September 29th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #5
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My feeling is it will change each time but if the wheels are still spinning you have a better chance to keep sliding down to the bottem. If you stop completley you have a better chance of hooking something during the slide and flipping over. Small bumps of the throttle is my answer. If you watch nascar you will see when they are sliding they are on the gas also.
It's always a slippery slope in these conditions. (ha, pun intended) I would think that in most cases this is true if you suspect you will continue to slide. However, if you feel there is enough traction to stop without toppling, you may be better off to try to stop the slide before it gets worse.

IMO, this question has no perfect answer. Each vehicle & driver will be different and the same hill can change day to day due to weather or how much wheeling it has seen.

My best suggestion is don't get that far into a situation on a slippery hill.
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I personally would try to stop the vehicle. If it will not stop you may have to ease of the brakes so you can attempt to steer. If your wheels are locked you will not be able to steer at all.

Experience is the best teacher. There is no set techniques for every encounter. Off roading can be very dangerous so if you are scared of some things, don't attempt them. If you work your way into the sport slowly you will find that you will enjoy it more and do less damage to your equipment. The best rule of advice I can give you is never offroad without another vehicle with you.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 10:54 AM   #7
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Get some good mud tires for mud hills. You are likley to catch a rut & go over if you wheels are locked. Turn right & punch it if you are gettin sideways. Always not good to slide down sideways into the pond.

I saw this video the other day & was scared for you & passengers.
Looks like you tires loaded up & turned to slicks.

Best bet follow the leader. See what he does. Never wheel alone.
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...... Each vehicle & driver will be different and the same hill can change day to day due to weather or how much wheeling it has seen......
I try to crawl everything first then give a little (very little) gas if necessary. If the trail is very slippery and crowned real bad I'll just pull cable if I can't crawl it. 90% of the trail ride damage I've witnessed if from people sliding off crowned trails / hills.

If all goes to hell and I end up stopped a little sideways (like at the end of the vid) I jab on the front Mico lock to lock up the front brakes, disengage the front drive and shove it in reverse with a few quick blips of throttle to slide the back end over behind the front.

Every situation is different. With time, experience and getting use to your rig, you'll be able to adapt to what's happening..........or you'll end up continually smashing your Jeep
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Old September 29th, 2009, 02:21 PM   #9
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Get some good mud tires for mud hills.
These were Super Swamper LTBs!
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Old September 29th, 2009, 05:30 PM   #10
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If youre sliding off the crown, turn away from the slide (towards the crown) and youll at least keep the vehicle from turning sideways. Youll slide off the crown at a parallel angle to whatever your running on till you come to a stop. Remember, your front wheels are pulling too, theyll pull the front end, usually, in the direction you aim them.

In the vid, it looks as if thats what the driver started to do, but then turned into the slide.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 06:44 PM   #11
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i would ask topwop
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in my experience, keep your front tires pointed up the hill till you stop. get your rig in reverse or neutral as quick and safe as possible. once you started your slide, point your fronts toward the way your front end slid. this should kick you back straight, leaving you with less of a chance of rolling.

keep those thumbs outside that wheel!

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Old February 15th, 2010, 01:35 PM   #13
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put it back in 2wd and let the rear tires spin to walk the back inline with the front if it is slick enough to not start digging and make things worse.
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