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Old September 13th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #1
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is there a special endorsement needed to tow a 19ft fifth wheel along with a 17ft boat behind your truck?
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Old September 13th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #2
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Recreational doubles I think. I didn't google it so I'm not sure.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 09:15 PM   #3
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Old September 13th, 2009, 09:23 PM   #4
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Old September 13th, 2009, 10:03 PM   #5
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better have a strong enough truck. dunno your specs but thats alot of gross weight to pull. i also wondered if you could pull tandems without endorsements
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Old September 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #6
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better have a strong enough truck. dunno your specs but thats alot of gross weight to pull. i also wondered if you could pull tandems without endorsements
less then 5500 lbs.
3k for 5th wheel, 2000 for boat. + a few for extras.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 03:03 PM   #7
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Recreational doubles I think. I didn't google it so I'm not sure.
that's right
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Old September 14th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #8
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I see people doing that all the time... But what if you need to "back-up"? Backing up a tandom is a freaking nightmare. I guess in bind a you could unhook the boat and then rehook.
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Why does it scare me that there is no driving test for this? With all the bonehead regular towing I see going on, this would really make my day.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 07:31 PM   #10
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I see people doing that all the time... But what if you need to "back-up"? Backing up a tandom is a freaking nightmare. I guess in bind a you could unhook the boat and then rehook.
says right in the brochure not to back up and if u have to, unhook the 2nd trailer..
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Old September 14th, 2009, 08:05 PM   #11
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i believe it must be under 65 ft., front towed unit must be a 5th wheel, front towed unit must outweight the rear unit. NEVER BACK UP! endorsements are commercial only.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 08:14 PM   #12
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This is an Ass Burner subject with me !!!! I make my living pullin doubles, Gravel trains, 154,000 Lb.s and i have to have a medical card every 2years,Pay Big $$$$$ for my license,and been doing it for 27years,and these guys think they can just go out and drag there boat behind there 5th wheel.I say leave the boat home our drive two vehicles if you don't know how to back up doubles!! Thats whats wrong on the roads today NO COMMON SENCE ANY MORE!! Don't incourage this kind of thinking,someone will get HURT!! I'm not tryin to be an ASS about this,I will be the 1st to teach ANYONE who truely wants to learn how to back doubles
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:40 AM   #13
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I make my living pullin doubles, Gravel trains, 154,000 Lb.s. Thats whats wrong with our roads today.
I fixed your post for you.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:40 AM   #14
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i believe it must be under 65 ft., front towed unit must be a 5th wheel, front towed unit must outweight the rear unit. NEVER BACK UP! endorsements are commercial only.
The recreational doubles endorsement is NOT commercial.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 07:44 AM   #15
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Why does it scare me that there is no driving test for this? With all the bonehead regular towing I see going on, this would really make my day.
The people towing doubles don't really bother me. Where is the driving test for the guy that just bought his new 2500 gasser and bought that new 39' triple axle toy hauler because the RV salesman said that his truck was more than adequate to pull that 20k load down the highway... Those are the people that scare me. Or the 72 year old retired guy that just bought his spiffy Peterbilt semi RV conversion. It is titled and plated as an RV and does not require any special training, testing, license, or medical test. That REALLY scares me.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 12:11 PM   #16
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84 scrambler you just made some Damn good points.. our roads are destroyed more and more every yr because of the extremely heavy trucks. BUT they have to make a living just the rest of us.. and as far as campers.. Just because you can doesnt mean you should.. I still stand behind my idea of ALL trailers over 14' requiring a written and Driving test for some kinda of endorsement.. more money for the state and the roads are a safer place.. then have the endorsments go up in classes from there... 15-20 21-30 31-40 and 40+
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Old September 15th, 2009, 12:35 PM   #17
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i did some research about this a few months ago but i BELIEVE these are the requirements.

1.under 65ft, looks like you are good there.
2.truck and 5th wheel trailer must individually outweigh the 2nd trailer. you look good on that one
3.your 5th wheel hitch must be rated for the weight of both trailers. i dont think they make one that is rated under your combined weight, so you should be good there too.
4.recreational double endorsement or some CDLs are also acceptable???. not positive on CDLs
5.even if you are legal in MI, not all state laws are the same for this and you could get in trouble in other states so check their laws before towing out of state.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #18
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5.even if you are legal in MI, not all state laws are the same for this and you could get in trouble in other states so check their laws before towing out of state.
Correct. Many states do not allow recreational double towing. I considered adding a hitch to our fifth wheel to tow a small aluminum fishing boat to upstate NY. It is illegal in Canada, PA, and NY. The length laws also vary by state. Some are 70'+ while some are 60'. You just have to research the laws of the states where you are traveling.
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