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Old September 9th, 2009, 12:38 PM   #1
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Been noticing lately that my coolant is disappearing as well as my oil, im about 300 or so miles from needing another oil change but when i checked the oil to see if thats where my coolants going im about two quarts low. My uncle said from the sounds of my problem my head gasket is going.. could this be it or something else?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 05:34 PM   #2
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hard telling from what you said but it sounds like a combination of head gasket and possibly rings.how many miles are on it and what is the motor? could also be intake gasket.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #3
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hard telling from what you said but it sounds like a combination of head gasket and possibly rings.how many miles are on it and what is the motor? could also be intake gasket.
The truck has 192k on it. It is a 351.
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ever notice any smoke at the tailpipe? white or blue...does it run hot, or not put out any heat at the dash vents? done a compression test?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 06:14 PM   #5
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could be a lot of things at 200k.... lol

you can get a test kit that test for combustion gasses in coolant.
I would try that first if you think that's your problem.

x2 on the intake gasket.
get a pressure tester and pressurize the cooling system and monitor it for any loss in pressure, and or leaks.
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i was thinking of doing a compression test on it. the truck doesnt burn any oil if thats where you were going bill. no smoke out of it. it seems to run ok. should we install a mechanical water guage on it?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 08:29 PM   #7
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i was thinking of doing a compression test on it. the truck doesnt burn any oil if thats where you were going bill. no smoke out of it. it seems to run ok. should we install a mechanical water guage on it?
like he said 192xxx miles on it, doesnt smoke or anything no puddles and I cant see where its leaking from. And as far as running hott, it stays right at the n in normal on the gauge even after running from my house in bay city to gaylord (some 2 hours worth of straight driving, so im clueless.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #8
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You could send the oil to Blackstone, they can tell you if it is an abnormal amount of coolant in it as well as other wear metals etc..
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I would say it's your rings

as far as the coolant. I had a radiator leak in the lower right hand corner of my f150 w/ 5.8.

I never could find it, and I never had a puddle on the ground. I recommend talking a look
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Also when im at a stop light i can feel the engine shake back and forth, its not always noticeable but sometimes its like i was riding down the road on a flat, but im stopped.
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everything I posted is signs of a blown head gasket...none of those showing, then I doubt you have a blown head gasket

do a compression test to start, and use the combustion gas detector on the rad., just to be sure of that, and if both of those show ok, start looking for leaks. If you cant find the leaks, then consider getting some dye to put in each, probable about $10 a bottle for each I'm gussing, but I really dont know what retail is on the dye. I'm sure you can rent the black light at one of the parts stores, its used more often for A/C leaks.
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i was thinking about doing the die as well. but does the die work on the coolant? ive only used it in oil and in air conditioner
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pull the spark plugs and just look at them, that will tell you alot.
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you can get a leak check dye for every fluid in your vehicle, and then some.


yes, you can get it for coolant as well, but I personally have a hard time using it if its got the old style green coolant, which also glows under a blacklight...you can drain the green coolant, flush it all out, fill it back up with water and then add the dye..oh, and make sure ou wash everythign off first, too. you dont want any old stuff still there to make you think you found a leak.



http://www.imperialinc.com/items.asp?item=0077910
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the truck doesnt burn any oil
Then it's either leaking it into the coolant or onto the ground.
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well i did a compression test yesterday and the truck ranges from 125-135 on all except #8 which is 155.


all the plugs are a whitish color
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well i did a compression test yesterday and the truck ranges from 125-135 on all except #8 which is 155.


all the plugs are a whitish color

was number 5 that was 155,
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351 are great for bad intake gaskets,if its leaking into the intake port on the heads this can explain your rough idle sometimes when you come to a stop after driving.as far as your oil problem, sounds like two different problems. you can burn oil and not see smoke. this is what the manufactures call oil consumption.just because you get good compression only means the top one or two rings are good, but that does not mean your oil rings are good.or you have a oil leak some where your not seeing,it could be blowing on the under side as your driving.
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