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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:03 PM   #1
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/..._care_overhaul
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:13 PM   #2
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the more I read on this topic the more I am reassured that the Dems seem to have no team aspect about them at all. It appears that every single one of them wants something different and there is no compromise possible in this current administration. Pelosi wants one thing, Baucus another, and Obama can't take an actual stand on shit. The U.S. can serve as a model for how not to run a business in all business school 101 courses from here on.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:16 PM   #3
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Nothing like having forced choices. Get what they tell you to or else
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #4
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anyone wanna move to Canada now?
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #5
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Insanity.

And anyone who supports any of the current bullshit has their head up their ass.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:32 PM   #6
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anyone wanna move to Canada now?
Ummm....no.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #7
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Up to $3800 fine for not having health care . . . and so it begins!!
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #8
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What? your surprised.

Me to, I say the fine will be bigger before their done.

This whole health insurance thing is a crock of shit.

How many of you have bitched to Crooked Carl Levin, or Debbie Stab me in the back now.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:19 PM   #9
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im still not buying what the Gov. is Selling unless its a Automatic Guns with Armor piercing ammo
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:25 PM   #10
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when will some white supremest asshat shot that SOB
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when will some white supremest asshat shot that SOB
they have him all over the Hate sites

only time will tell

Just watched SOA on FX looks like Hollywood is hinting more White Race Movies
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:30 PM   #12
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they have him all over the Hate sites

only time will tell
I really really hope that doesn't happen. Let him sink himself, which he is doing much faster than I had thought.
It would cause to much damage to this country if he were killed.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:35 PM   #13
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Why would a "white supremest asshat" want to shoot a white pro-gun senator?




I know, you meant Obama. But the idea being discussed in this thread was not one proposed by Obama, and Obama has stated that he is opposed to this idea.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:39 PM   #14
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Well if someone just so happened to take them both out i wouldn't mind. Who knows it will probably be a national holiday (aka another off of school). Hopefully the funerals won't interrupt my shows.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:41 PM   #15
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I know, you meant Obama. But the idea being discussed in this thread was not one proposed by Obama, and Obama has stated that he is opposed to this idea.
I thought the original Obama plan had tax penilties to the tune of 8% of your gross income, or something along that line if you didn't carry insurance or sign up with the socialist option...
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Nothing like having forced choices. Get what they tell you to or else
but he is neither a socialist, fascist, or communist.

and how dare we compare them to any
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Old September 9th, 2009, 12:09 AM   #17
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I thought the original Obama plan had tax penilties to the tune of 8% of your gross income, or something along that line if you didn't carry insurance or sign up with the socialist option...
Dunno, I've never seen Obama's plan. All the plans I've seen came from congressmen. I'm just going by what was in the article:

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Nonetheless, the fines pose a dilemma for Obama. As a candidate, the president campaigned hard against making health insurance a requirement, and fining people for not getting it.
"Punishing families who can't afford health care to begin with just doesn't make sense," he said during his party's primaries. At the time, he proposed mandatory insurance only for children.
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OK just to confuse people I'll go both sides.

I don't like the idea and it pisses me off when people say it's just like car insurance, mandatory. Car insurance is NOT mandatory. It is only required if you want to drive a car. If you don't want it fine, don't drive. The only way to avoid this fee it to leave the country or die.

But,

The justification for this is that people without insurance end up costing all of us money when they end up in the hospital and can pay the bill. I haven't seen it in writing but it seems to me that if they do this that the money should go into a fund to pay the hospital bills for people that don't have insurance.

So lets make a deal. you don't have to have insurance or pay a fine, but, the hospitals do not have to treat you if they don't think you can pay for their services. They can just dump you on the sidewalk out front and let you die there if you can't pay for services. How does that sound?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 02:38 AM   #19
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i like the new Sig one day i will be like cool people to have my own someday
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Old September 9th, 2009, 07:35 AM   #20
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I really really hope that doesn't happen. Let him sink himself, which he is doing much faster than I had thought.
It would cause to much damage to this country if he were killed.
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