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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:36 AM   #21
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Most dana 44s use the 1310 style U-joint. Do you know what you had on the the pumpkin of the old IFS axle? It could have even been a CV style I'm not sure. But you will either need a new drive shaft, an adaper or you may be able to get yours changed to match.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM   #22
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my stock front axels are cv , not sure what my front shaft is thow ( i know its tiny and is flat on the ends and uses 4 12mm 12point bolts on both ends ) , it does take u joints in it thow because i just replaced them about a month ago , thats all i realy know about it
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Sounds like a 1310 they have small ass bolts that hold the covers on over the u-joint caps. Your dana 44 will have little u-bolts instead, they hold up better. You may end having your drive shaft shortened (assuming the u-bolt style is the same) or if it's too short you may need a new one.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:46 PM   #24
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my front drive shaft is a slip style and i can get a good 3-4inches of movement from it so as long as it bolts up i guess i should be ok
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Not a good vehicle to bother doing anything to.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:20 PM   #26
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Not a good vehicle to bother doing anything to.
PP has spoken, take it to the nearest junk yard lol.

I think he means there are better trucks to start with that would be a lot less work to get the same result.
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why not use ford 78/79 radius arms? easy to set up
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Old September 9th, 2009, 08:54 PM   #28
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Actually TTB might not be a bad choice for an expedition.

Weld in the Pivot member and the radius arm member.

Whats your complaint about the torsion bars?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #29
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i wouldn't put A ttb on ANYTHING!

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Whats wrong with TTB?

Not saying its as good as a solid axle, but waaay more flexy then Torsion bars.
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not saying anythings wrong with the torsion bars , just tired of the weak ass front ifs
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Old September 10th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #32
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Do you really plan on wheelin a full size expidition? Thats a lot of truck. The IFS is probably just as strong as a 77-79 D44 so that would be a poor reason to swap it. I bought a complete balljoint, controller arm, and tie rod end kit for my 97 f150 off ebay for around $165 shipped to my door. It only takes around 4 to 5 hours to swap everything plus an alignment. In the end, you know it will work.

Just curious since a TTB swap came up. Has anyone ever seen a vehicle without TTB seen TTB swapped in it?
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Old September 10th, 2009, 09:52 AM   #33
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yes i do plan on wheelin a expedition lol , there not that big of a truck , i know people who wheel excursions
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a guy I know put a SFA on his 97 F-150 (same setup as the expedition), he used everything from a 99-04 F-250/350. D60 front on leaf springs, and he recently swapped a cummins in place of the 4.6 liter.


His name is Jesse and goes by bigreen on pirate4x4, fordtruckworld, and a few other forums. He owns farmboy fabrications, and is a really good guy....I'm sure he would be able to help answer any questions and give you a few tips to make it go easier.
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yes i do plan on wheelin a expedition lol , there not that big of a truck , i know people who wheel excursions
I agree, Expedition is the same width as a full size ford truck plus it's a little shorter. Also It's the same width as a full size Bronco or Blazer. What's the big deal?

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yes i do plan on wheelin a expedition lol , there not that big of a truck , i know people who wheel excursions
This link is of a Tahoe build with leafs. The guy who built it uses the forum all the time and may give some better insight on setting it up.

Ton(s) of fun Tahoe - Midwestern 4x4 Forums

Are expiditions coil spring in the rear? If so, I would consider changing it to leaf springs. IMO leafs in a vehicle like that would increase the stability quite a bit for sidehills and hill climbs. I doubt the flex of coil springs would be worth it since rock crawling and tight trails would not be the best type of wheelin for an expidition.

If you do the build, take pics and make a thread. There's not nearly enough 97+ ford 1/2 ton build-ups on the net to get information from.
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yes expeditions are a coil spring in the rear , i think im doing to stick with the springs in the rear for now untill they give me a reason to swap them out , thanks for the help guys
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It would be awesome to see another Expedition out there playing.

I had a blast with mine down at bundy hill this past weekend, and its all stock.

Honestly, the Torsion bar IFS isnt ALL that bad, hell, my buddy got 3 ft of air with his 2000 F150 and landed it, just fine.

The coil sprung rear isnt all that bad either, and leaf spring setup from an F150 would be kinda rough to do because the frames are different in the back (the expedition is actually considerably taller).

Hell with it, put on a lift, some bigger tires, and go play. As soon as i get some money im puting a 3inch and 33's on mine.
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