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Old June 28th, 2006, 01:55 AM   #1
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I'm sure many of you have delt with bums/homeless.
We all know of stans ordeall trying to help someone out.
I myself have walked out of a chinese resturant to be asked by a bum for money for the soup kitchen, my response was, "here take our take out chinese food", his retort was, "do you have utensils?" he then walked away when i told him no.
Just last week i was talking with my younger cousin who gave a granola bar to a homeless man that was holding a sign that stated anything will help, to only have him through it down on the ground infront of her.

And now i'm watching Dirty Jobs on Discovery Channel, and they were at a food recycling/energy plant in San Fran, they were converting food waste into electricity, and i was sitting here thinking, wow yes we do waste a lot of food.
Heck today was my first day on the job at a resturant, and we threw out tons of food, hell even the staff was offered food.

Anyways getting to the point, if we didn't waste all this damn food that we do, and offered it to homeless people, i still think they would still throw it back in our damn faces.


So yeah, screw them, i don't give a damn about how you have to get enough change to ride the damn buss that costs $.50-1.00 to ride.






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Old June 28th, 2006, 02:21 AM   #2
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They all want money. if u offer them food 50% of the time they'll be greatfull, But some of them actually arent homeless I know in big cities people put on an act just to get money from people. <Call BS if u want but i know people do this.
Plus some of the homeless people just want the money so they can drink away their missery. i say hand them a job app instead.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 02:31 AM   #3
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in eastern Europe and Austria, women will sit on corners with babies begging for money, mind you much of the time the babies are not even theirs, more like rentals, and to make sure they baby cries on cue they will pinch it till it does. Then the pimp comes by and collects the money.

So they pimp beggers in europe, why haven't the pimps in america figure out how to do this yet? smack some sense into a bum when he spends all the pimps money on booze or meth.



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Old June 28th, 2006, 06:51 AM   #4
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They all want money. if u offer them food 50% of the time they'll be greatfull, But some of them actually arent homeless I know in big cities people put on an act just to get money from people. <Call BS if u want but i know people do this.
Plus some of the homeless people just want the money so they can drink away their missery. i say hand them a job app instead.

there was a thing on 20/20 about it a couple years ago... some of the bums make 60k a year... one was driving a mercedes
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:16 AM   #5
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They all want money. if u offer them food 50% of the time they'll be greatfull, But some of them actually arent homeless I know in big cities people put on an act just to get money from people. <Call BS if u want but i know people do this.
Plus some of the homeless people just want the money so they can drink away their missery. i say hand them a job app instead.
If anyone calls BS on you, they are mis-informed.
The people that are actually homeless refuse to go stay at the shelters and homes set up for indigent people, usually because they can't get along and would rather live outside when it's nice.

There are several people living on Belle Isle in Detroit. How great is that? Big BBQ all summer, Hydroplane races, woods to camp in, no job, lots of returnables, best views in the area, waterfront property, beach, and real bathrooms!! Shit, I should quit my job!
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:18 AM   #6
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Yea...most of the people that are in that situation enjoy being in that situation. They make it their choice to be homeless, so no, we shouldn't care.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:52 AM   #7
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Take a handful of silver and throw down the road. Make them work for the money. Plus you get cheap entertainment.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:00 AM   #8
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homeless and starving are different. No one in america has to starve unless they are a practically trying to starve. There is a million programs, a million charities. I just feel bad for the kids of bums and homeless, not very bad for homeless adults though
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:30 AM   #9
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I can understand having a hard time getting up after you have been down. The circumstances that took them down is totally different though. Most have fucked up with gambling, drinking, and drugs. Fortunatley we don't have beggers in Saginaw much. Becky's dad once was approached when he stopped at a light, after offering to take the guy to the local food joint and buy some food, the guy declined. I thought Steve was gonna rip his head off.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:38 AM   #10
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Right here in our little town some ass clown stands at the 212 exit with a sign will work for food , right behind him is a sign in the taco bell thats says now hiring . This guy wont work if you offer him a job , he just wants money for nothing .

Iv heard stories of beggers ending there day by going around the corner and jumping in a new car they have and heading home . All tax free money they collect .

I my self feel if the person has mental issues they need help , If there just plan bums let them bum on some one else .
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Old June 28th, 2006, 09:10 AM   #11
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Proverbs 31:6-7

Give beer to those who are perishing,
wine to those who are in anguish;
let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more.


We are not judged by what the person chooses to do with our money, rather we are judged by faithfully and consistently giving to those who are in need. I know that half of the bums that I give money to are buying booze with it.

Its the duty of those who HAVE to provide for those who HAVE NOT.
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Its the duty of those who HAVE to provide for those who HAVE NOT.
Then those that have will have not and those that have not will have....

Then what?
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Old June 28th, 2006, 09:29 AM   #13
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Then those that have will have not and those that have not will have....

Then what?
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Take a handful of silver and throw down the road. Make them work for the money. Plus you get cheap entertainment.
Heh, we were waiting outside the State Theater in Detroit one night to get into a concert. We got bored and started flicking nickels and dimes at them. They'd be fighting each other for them. They didn't like the pennies though. And, we were too cheap to throw quarters at them.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 09:48 AM   #15
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I don't encounter many bums in my day to day activities. On the few times I have been confronted by a bum I just ignore and walk on. I care for my family, friends, neighbors, community, coworkers, and students. For better or worse I don't care much for bums.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 10:18 AM   #16
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I have an aunt who is homeless. If she would come home and clean her act up we would take her in. My grandparents spent thousands of dollars paying for rehabs for her when they were alive, and they weren't rich people. We never understood why she needed to return to the streets until about 1997 when she tried to commit suicide. She is a schizophrenic. They say a lot of the homeless people are mentally impared. I think those people need to be locked up in sanitariums like they did in the old days.
If we killed all of the inmates with life sentances we could clear out some jail cells and keep them in there too.
Even though my aunt is a crazy homeless lady, I dont have much sympathy for them. She had plenty of chances to reform or get help, and I am sure the rest of them have too.
I never give money to beggars. I would rather give my money to the humane society!
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I never give money to beggars. I would rather give my money to the humane society!
Of course... because animals are way more important than people....
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Animals can and will fend for themselves. They will not beg, nor do they need to. If you want starving dogs to fend for themselves then you do not have children. The dogs will surely eat the children, and the old people, and the homeless really. Anyone not able to fend for themselves. Remember animals are animals.

People too can fend for themselves, tho the homeless often chose not to. Spew more bible verses, but until you sell that scrambler, the vette, and the house and give that money to the homeless than you are no different than we, except you are merely fooling yourself by not following what you preach.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 11:37 AM   #19
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When i use to work at the livonia Italian Bakery we would throw out hundrads of pounds of pizza rolls, cinnamon rolls, crasants, bread, and other stuff.... one day i asked why they don't donate the the food to help out the less fortunate. I was told they can't do it because of the lyability issues.... if someone were to get very ille from eating somthing that went bad they could sue the bakery.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 11:45 AM   #20
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Spew more bible verses, but until you sell that scrambler, the vette, and the house and give that money to the homeless than you are no different than we, except you are merely fooling yourself by not following what you preach.
He might give away more then you make in one year. Just because your jelous of his CJ8, vette and nice home doesn't give you the right to condem him for doing the right thing. And him knowing the bible is all the better.


My wife lives in Chicago and you wouldn't not belive that amount of homless people there. Most are just crazy and there are a few with dissabilities. What I don't understand about homeless people is why they choose to live in cold climate areas. If I had all that time on my hands I would start walking south since I know that there is a winter every single year. Spending my winter in FL or a warm climate would be much nicer then freezin my ass off in MI.

I came out of pizza populas(sp) once and gave half a pizza to a homless guy and you would have thought it was christmas. I try to give them food everytime we leave a resturante in the city. I don't think they should be given money since I feel that most of them drink it away but helping is always a good thing.
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