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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:48 PM   #1
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Is there any truth to this, I have heard that Obama is going to talk to all grade school kids in the country, k through 8th grade. Sounds like something Hitler or stalin would do. Is this the way the demcoratic party will stay in power, by indoctrinating our kids? brainwashing our kids? time to keep them home on the first day of school
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 06:31 PM   #2
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Yes, next Tuesday.

And next Wednesday he's going to indoctrinate Congress.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 06:38 PM   #3
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christ...yes, if the president speaks to the children, he's going to indoctrinate them into being pinko commie socialists...
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Yes, he's going to tell them that Republicans are to blame for all of our economic problems, tell them that to recognize Republicans they are now going to be required to wear yellow semi-automatic pistol pins on their clothing and forced to move into special areas where they're behavior can be monitored at all times. In addition, they will no longer be able to meet in public or private places in groups larger than 5...
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I'll wait to hear his speech before passing judgment on his intentions.

If he says something like say in school and get good grades....

If he says something similar to his "poverty of ambition" speech.....

With his falling poll numbers and the dwindling support for agenda, this seems like a risky PR move. If he says the wrong thing it's going to hurt him. He better hope his tele-prompter doesn't break down.
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actually, obama decided that forming the hitler youth to pass his bill wasn't good for the poll numbers.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ts-help-obama/


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There were several people who called in to WJR this morning saying they were keeping their kids home. I think our president has better things to do than worry about talking to kids. Maybe he figures this is the only age group that will buy into his bullshit.
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it would have been the first time all the black kids would have been in school at the same time.

i am so getting flammed and no i do not believe what i just said.
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Fox news doesn't like the idea . . . well, they don't exactly say that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ress-students/
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I am sorry but i cant see the reason for trying to speak to the kids that are in grades under 10th.

My 6 year old is going to be in first grade and what does he get from listing to this, nothing.

Yes if he has to watch it he will, but i am sorry it is a scare tactic.

If big bird gets on tv kids that age will listen,I am sorry but there is no need for him to be speaking to the school age kids.

I guess if since his poll numbers are going down the shitter, might as well try to get the kids to listen to him so they can run home and tell there parents how great the president is.

I asked my wife if My son can stand up and say Obama is a racist commie, but she said no. So maybe i should get him a shirt that say's Obama isnt very nice

The Rochester School district already said they are not going to play it during school, and that if 12th graders want to watch they can during a special view at lunch

There are far more important things Obama needs to do, righ nw rather then talk to my kids
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christ...yes, if the president speaks to the children, he's going to indoctrinate them into being pinko commie socialists...
Convincing the younger generation of this country that socialism is acceptable and a way of life then why not impress this on the young minds that can so easily be molded to think anything you want.
Heck why not start by telling our kids that obama is a great guy and loves children, at least the ones that are born

Watched a clip the other day of Bush senior doing the same thing, talking to school kids, the did not like it because it cost too much money. So the message from the dems is, it is ok for them to do but not for the .

Leaning a little to the left, wouldn't you say

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Heck why not start by telling our kids that obama is a great guy and loves children, at least the ones that are born
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020

Conservative media take note: Reagan preached tax cut gospel to America’s students

September 03, 2009 1:09 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Putting aside possible ulterior motives, the conservative freak-out over President Obama’s planned speech to students urging them to stay in school and work hard is due to fears that Obama will use his platform as an opportunity to push his agenda on unsuspecting students. Ironically, that’s exactly what President Reagan did two decades ago.

On November 14, 1988, Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. According to press secretary Marlin Fitzwater, the speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “t o schools nationwide on three different days.” Much of Reagan’s speech that day covered the American “vision of self-government” and the need “to keep faith with the unfinished vision of the greatness and wonder of America” but in the middle of the speech, the president went off on a tangent about the importance of low taxes:

Today, to a degree never before seen in human history, one nation, the United States, has become the model to be followed and imitated by the rest of the world. But America's world leadership goes well beyond the tide toward democracy. We also find that more countries than ever before are following America's revolutionary economic message of free enterprise, low taxes, and open world trade. These days, whenever I see foreign leaders, they tell me about their plans for reducing taxes, and other economic reforms that they are using, copying what we have done here in our country.


I wonder if they realize that this vision of economic freedom, the freedom to work, to create and produce, to own and use property without the interference of the state, was central to the American Revolution, when the American colonists rebelled against a whole web of economic restrictions, taxes and barriers to free trade. The message at the Boston Tea Party -- have you studied yet in history about the Boston Tea Party, where because of a tax they went down and dumped the tea in the Harbor. Well, that was America's original tax revolt, and it was the fruits of our labor -- it belonged to us and not to the state. And that truth is fundamental to both liberty and prosperity.

During the question-and-answer portion of the event, Reagan returned to the topic, this time telling the students that lowering taxes increases revenue:

Q My name is Cam Fitzie and I'm from St. Agnes School in Alexandria, Virginia. I was wondering if you think that it is possible to decrease the national debt without raising the taxes of the public?


PRESIDENT REAGAN: I do. That's a big argument that's going on in government and I definitely believe it is because one of the principle reasons that we were able to get the economy back on track and create those new jobs and all was we cut the taxes, we reduced them. Because you see, the taxes can be such a penalty on people that there's no incentive for them to prosper and to earn more and so forth because they have to give so much to the government. And what we have found is that at the lower rates the government gets more revenue, there are more people paying taxes because there are more people with jobs and there are more people willing to earn more money because they get to keep a bigger share of it, so today, we're getting more revenue at the lower rates than we were at the higher. And do you know something? I studied economics in college when I was young and I learned there about a man named Ibn Khaldun, who lived 1200 years ago in Egypt. And 1200 years ago he said, in the beginning of the empire, the rates were low, the tax rates were low, but the revenue was great. He said in the end of empire, when the empire was collapsing, the rates were great and the revenue was low.

The students probably didn’t know any better, but this is an idea that has been rejected by virtually every economist not named Larry Kudlow.

Do Sean Hannity and the folks at NewsBusters think President Reagan was engaging in Maoist indoctrination? Do Glenn Beck and WorldNetDaily think Reagan was pulling a Mussolini or attempting to assemble his own Hitler Youth? Or is it possible that the conservative media has decided that if Obama is for it – whether “it” means “universal health care” or “stay in school” – they’re against it?
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Old September 4th, 2009, 08:53 AM   #14
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Is there any truth to this, I have heard that Obama is going to talk to all grade school kids in the country, k through 8th grade. Sounds like something Hitler or stalin would do. Is this the way the demcoratic party will stay in power, by indoctrinating our kids? brainwashing our kids? time to keep them home on the first day of school
I don't like or agree with a lot of what Obama does. However wrong his policies may be, he has NEVER ordered mass killings nor did he invade a foreign country. He hasn't committed genocide against a particular race or religion in the name of a "perfect society". MORE THAN 6 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT DIE UNDER HIS TERM AS PRESIDENT.

Comparing him to Hitler, or to a lesser extent Stalin, is completely unfair to the countless numbers of families destroyed by Hitler and the people who fought to protect the innocent and eliminate that threat.

That having been said, Obama is not the first president to address the kids. If he can get broadcast to the little ghetto rats who drop out of middle school to start slinging crack and get them to think that they can actually be more than fry cooks by staying in school, more power to him.

You speak of scare tactics, yet use terms like "indoctrinate" and "brainwash". Isn't that just a little extremist? I can hardly see an hour of a speech as capable of achieving either of those. Perhaps you should read the speech before passing judgement and making accusations like this.

Now... if he made the speech from inside a purple dinosaur suit and gave it a little piano accompanyment, I'd be worried. Another certain someone used those tactics and had every little tricycle motor for an entire generation singing his songs.

Relax, take off the tinfoil hats, and have a couple . It's all gonna be ok, and it'll only get better in 2012.
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I think that the White House should elease a breakdown of what it will be ahead of time. it should definitely be optional though.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #16
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I think that the White House should elease a breakdown of what it will be ahead of time. it should definitely be optional though.
They are, the entire speech will be available online on Monday. And obviously, it's optional. Some schools are choosing not to broadcast it for their own reasons, yet they aren't running to the news about it in an effort to sensationalize the whole ordeal, unlike Rochestor.
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One thing between obama and Reagan. Reagan was a great president and obama sucks. The mans morals are twisted and funamentally wrong. We have greater and better role models for our children than obama. The man is a self described marxist and murderer, oh and don't forget war monger.
He and his entire cabinet of czars are all about the destruction of america, rasing taxes, and oh ya rasing taxes.
Obama and
Reagan should not even be used in the same sentence
Reality check mike reality check
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Old September 4th, 2009, 09:30 AM   #18
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I can understand a "Stay in school and don't do drugs" speech but the letter-writing was a load.

Czars? That is a good Cmmie-sounding name. Didn't other presidents call them advisors?

1. Afghanistan-Pakistan (Af-Pak) czar, Richard Holbrooke
2. AIDS czar, Jeffrey Crowley [openly gay white man]
3. Auto recovery czar, Ed Montgomery
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7. Car czar, Ron Bloom
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15. Economic czar, Larry Summers
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I don't like or agree with a lot of what Obama does. However wrong his policies may be, he has NEVER ordered mass killings nor did he invade a foreign country. He hasn't committed genocide against a particular race or religion in the name of a "perfect society". MORE THAN 6 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT DIE UNDER HIS TERM AS PRESIDENT.

Comparing him to Hitler, or to a lesser extent Stalin, is completely unfair to the countless numbers of families destroyed by Hitler and the people who fought to protect the innocent and eliminate that threat.

That having been said, Obama is not the first president to address the kids. If he can get broadcast to the little ghetto rats who drop out of middle school to start slinging crack and get them to think that they can actually be more than fry cooks by staying in school, more power to him.

You speak of scare tactics, yet use terms like "indoctrinate" and "brainwash". Isn't that just a little extremist? I can hardly see an hour of a speech as capable of achieving either of those. Perhaps you should read the speech before passing judgement and making accusations like this.

Now... if he made the speech from inside a purple dinosaur suit and gave it a little piano accompanyment, I'd be worried. Another certain someone used those tactics and had every little tricycle motor for an entire generation singing his songs.

Relax, take off the tinfoil hats, and have a couple . It's all gonna be ok, and it'll only get better in 2012.





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there is NO EXCUSE for this. there is no reason other than to attempt to brainwash innocent children and effectively turn them against their parents. our communist aristocracy has come with this plan to divide and conquer.

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I don't like or agree with a lot of what Obama does. However wrong his policies may be, he has NEVER ordered mass killings nor did he invade a foreign country. He hasn't committed genocide against a particular race or religion in the name of a "perfect society". MORE THAN 6 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT DIE UNDER HIS TERM AS PRESIDENT.

Comparing him to Hitler, or to a lesser extent Stalin, is completely unfair to the countless numbers of families destroyed by Hitler and the people who fought to protect the innocent and eliminate that threat.

That having been said, Obama is not the first president to address the kids. If he can get broadcast to the little ghetto rats who drop out of middle school to start slinging crack and get them to think that they can actually be more than fry cooks by staying in school, more power to him.

You speak of scare tactics, yet use terms like "indoctrinate" and "brainwash". Isn't that just a little extremist? I can hardly see an hour of a speech as capable of achieving either of those. Perhaps you should read the speech before passing judgement and making accusations like this.

Now... if he made the speech from inside a purple dinosaur suit and gave it a little piano accompanyment, I'd be worried. Another certain someone used those tactics and had every little tricycle motor for an entire generation singing his songs.

Relax, take off the tinfoil hats, and have a couple . It's all gonna be ok, and it'll only get better in 2012.
read about lenin and his methods of converting the popiulation and you will see how closely obama is following his method.
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