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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:19 PM   #41
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i can't figure out how the "device" in that picture ^ is attached to the axle...just wtf is he trying to make here?


check out his "build thread"
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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:31 PM   #42
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yea i seen the build thread i just can't figure out wtf he was trying to do. sheer stupidity and drunken engineering is my guess.
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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:35 PM   #43
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wow i have never seen someone do that. it will never work i have no clue why anyone would Ever do that. the welds look like complete Shit and the idea is garbage.
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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:38 PM   #44
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wow i have never seen someone do that. it will never work i have no clue why anyone would Ever do that. the welds look like complete Shit and the idea is garbage.
There is a link in that Pirate thread of a guy who did the same think. His looked like it was built much better, and it actually worked pretty well it looked like. But it would need a panhard bar.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:04 AM   #45
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I really love guys who think that with a Harbor Freight MIG welder and some scrap steel they can 'engineer' a better suspension than the factory.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:08 AM   #46
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I really love guys who think that with a Harbor Freight MIG welder and some scrap steel they can 'engineer' a better suspension than the factory.
ahaha theres lots of them. from the looks im guessing hes using a cheap hoe depo arc welder.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:16 AM   #47
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I got stuck having to weld some 1" plate with one of those Lincoln 225 AC welders at a customer's plant, what pile o crap. My WWII vintage Forney 190 amp arc welder does 10x the job, but then it's a 70% duty cycle vs 30% for the Lincoln.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:20 AM   #48
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this is true
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Thanks for the info and yea now I see where he is stupid.. but hopefully he make sit right before he drives it on the streets.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #50
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So far he's changed the front suspension, swapped in a Hemi, and now experimenting with the rear....and it's a DD.....
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #51
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all in a weekend.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #52
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Guess it helps that he has room in his garage. I'm limited by the weather right now.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #53
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you mean the fall weather and its still august.
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lol come on you dont like the weather? hard nips everywhere!! but the girls still wear tank tops :)
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Old August 30th, 2009, 08:55 AM   #55
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Um. Yeah. Least the dood is getting r done.

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Old August 30th, 2009, 09:25 AM   #56
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This picture says a ton. The idea that the spring won't wrap, *THAT* spring, thats crazy. Darn near the same amount of work and its 4 linked on coils. The axle will pivot on the lower and wrap badly as that thin, worn out, bent spring flexs. Especially with the leverage put by putting that so high above the axle tube.

Those welds are scary. I don't see evidence that the machine used is bad, but the operator has no concept of how to hold the gun/elecrode, and move/fill correctly. Just knda poking it at until metal appears I guess.



THese shots of the spring bracket... um. You can spend that kind of money on joints, but then use some chopped up bolts/rod to booger weld them to 1/4" plate. That 1/4" plate *will* bend and loosen.



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Old August 30th, 2009, 11:19 AM   #57
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I foresee those grade 8 bolts holding, beyond that it's a pure crap shoot.

My guess is that one of those welds will fail first...actually the welds have already failed.

"Holding" things together and "welding" things together are 2 different things.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 02:26 PM   #58
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Old August 30th, 2009, 06:01 PM   #59
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why spend the effort researching proven methods when you can come up with some of your own engineering that's just been waiting to get out of your brain!
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Old August 30th, 2009, 07:04 PM   #60
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this looks scary. period. this is a prime example of when you don't know what you're doing, have a professional do it. second if I was doing a suspension and Jesus and 95geo said it was unsafe or a waste of time I would stop
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