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Old August 28th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #1
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My dad has a 33 Ford pickup and a 29 Ford Model A Cabriolet, and I've been thinking about selling the Model A since I have no idea what I'd do with it. The car is all original and I'm sure is numbers-matching. It has no rust, just needs maintenance work to get it running and driving again since it has been sitting in a garage down here for a while. My mom wanted to sell the property both cars are on, and I don't think she would want to pay to store both cars some place. I want to keep the truck.
Where could I go to get sort of a ballpark price on how much this is worth? I don't have any pics of the car right now. Thanks.
Update: I finally got into the garage. I only found the registration to the car (from 1977), did not find titles for either of them and I'm not sure what I'll need to get titles.
Here's some pics, I'm not sure where to look for the engine and VIN nor do I know how to match them up.
Some info: The 29 has 5(2?)94(2?) miles on the odometer, and has a '29 black plate on it. The truck has 60379. The heads on the truck are stamped Mercury and have 825 3 EAC on them (well the driver's side head does I believe). I have the VIN on the car, but not the truck as I don't know where to look for the numbers to the engines and VIN as I said.











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My dad has a 33 Ford pickup and a 29 Ford Model A Cabriolet, and I've been thinking about selling the Model A since I have no idea what I'd do with it. The car is all original and I'm sure is numbers-matching. It has no rust, just needs maintenance work to get it running and driving again since it has been sitting in a garage down here for a while. My mom wanted to sell the property both cars are on, and I don't think she would want to pay to store both cars some place. I want to keep the truck.
Where could I go to get sort of a ballpark price on how much this is worth? I don't have any pics of the car right now. Thanks.
Get an appraisal.
Check your local listings for antique auto appraisals.
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Old August 28th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #3
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Ended *sold* auctions on ebay will get you a ballpark.

I would be very surprised if the A has the original engine still. The only numbers to really match up are the frame # and engine number. the frame number can't really be seen without removing the body either.

Get some pics, if the paint is decent for a driver and you get it running, about 7k would be a low start IMO.

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Holy crap. NADA lists that thing for a crapload more than I thought. I heard there were only about 12 of these cars left with the options this car has. But then again it doesn't mean much if it isn't desireable.
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The paint is kinda faded from what I remember but it's all original, my dad liked to keep his stuff stock. I wouldn't be surprised if the vehicle has never been repainted. It looks like a time machine. It has the rumble seat. I know it wouldn't take much to get it running again, just clean the gas tank, carb, change fluids, brakes, tune-up and visually inspect to make sure it is fine.
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Holy crap. NADA lists that thing for a crapload more than I thought. I heard there were only about 12 of these cars left with the options this car has. But then again it doesn't mean much if it isn't desireable.
I don't know where you heard there are only 12 Cabriolets left... but me thinks you need to google.

There is no way to trace back original options to serial number unless you have the original dealer invoice. Dealers added stuff and owners, and you cannot tell otherwise in most cases.
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These guys could probably help you...

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Oh yeah, there is also a body number, but without knowing the serial for sure you won't be able to tell if they are a ballpark match. For instance my 1929 Model A coupes original stamping put the engine as built on Sept 24th 1929, then the body says the car was assembled in LA in October 1929.

My car received a Ford replacement engine sometime in its life, so the serial on my engine shows this (from what people have told me)
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My dad was told that, that's all I remember. I know it would be very vague especially for that year. I don't think anyone knows what the production of the truck is, my dad's friend said it could be few or a company could have ordered a lot of work trucks back then, they didn't document that kinda stuff very good. It's a 33 Ford Prospector pickup. Right now I'm trying to find the titles to the vehicles. Hopefully that will help me, I could probably find a VIN decoder someplace.
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Any pics? I have a friend that collects old cars. He may be intersted
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I might be able to scan some old photos of it but at this time I can't get pics. I won't be able to get to the car for the next few weeks. Pretty much it is black with a tan top I believe, beige wire wheels and I think a black seat.
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I might be able to scan some old photos of it but at this time I can't get pics. I won't be able to get to the car for the next few weeks. Pretty much it is black with a tan top I believe, beige wire wheels and I think a black seat.
Tan wheels on a 29 also would not be original. They should be black.

I would wait until you get more info/pics and post up on Fordbarn. The are interesting little cars, way more precision went into them then people think.
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I'm sure the wheels were painted at some time. I think my dad was the second owner of the car. I'll try to find some pics of the car and truck if I can. My scanner is older than the internet, though.
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I can't find any pics of the car or truck at this time. I must've left the pics in MI. I'll still try to find the title, I think the VIN will help me a lot. It did for my GTO at least.
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I can't find any pics of the car or truck at this time. I must've left the pics in MI. I'll still try to find the title, I think the VIN will help me a lot. It did for my GTO at least.
When you get the title, check the numbers against the motor at the very least.

There are very few Model A's that the numbers actually do match. If the number on the title doesn't match the motor it likely is not a numbers matching car.

I am the third owner of my car, and it isn't numbers matching anymore. The car has 93,000miles and the motors back then if taken care of were good for about 60k.

Knowing all that will help you, until you can get any of that info it will be more difficult to sell the car - unless a hot rodder buys it, then they don't give a damn one way or another.
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I won't be able to look at the car for a few weeks, I wouldn't doubt that chances are slim it has its original engine. The car is what, 80 years old this year.
I'll still check the VIN to the block and see. I'm just wondering what kinda ballpark estimate my mom could get for it if she decides to sell.
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Get an appraisal.
Check your local listings for antique auto appraisals.
x2, or find a antique auto club and ask some members there. my dad is huge into model T's and that is the best way.
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I'd get with a club before I spent money on an appraisal. Appraisals do not mean shit, especially with the way the antique car market is right now. Cars have dropped quite a bit in the last year.

All an appraisal will really do is tell you what it should be insured for.
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I wasn't really considering appraisal, seems that any market in this economy is hit or miss. I should just drive it to Barrett-Jackson lol.
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