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Old September 11th, 2009, 09:48 PM   #221
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Hey chrisngrod....you wanna go back out there one weekend?

See how my Expy can stack up to your FJ :P
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:33 PM   #222
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Wednesday was work night helping the guys cut in the newest trail out at Bundy Hill ORV Park.
"WARN Valley", is by far the most extreme trail on the property yet!
Watched a YJ maneuver through it, and was absolutely amazed at what I was seeing it do!
It involved Crawling, Winching, Off Camber, Tire Obstacles, and more Winching.
This is the first trail to introduce tire obstacles, and will not be the last.
It still needs a little refinement over the next couple of days, but should prove challenging for those that decide to give it a try this weekend.

Come on out this weekend and check it out!

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Old September 26th, 2009, 11:22 AM   #223
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Looks pretty sweet. Have to try and get out there maybe tomorrow or another weekend in October.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 08:15 AM   #224
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Wednesday was work night helping the guys cut in the newest trail out at Bundy Hill ORV Park.
"WARN Valley", is by far the most extreme trail on the property yet!
Watched a YJ maneuver through it, and was absolutely amazed at what I was seeing it do!
It involved Crawling, Winching, Off Camber, Tire Obstacles, and more Winching.
This is the first trail to introduce tire obstacles, and will not be the last.
It still needs a little refinement over the next couple of days, but should prove challenging for those that decide to give it a try this weekend.

Come on out this weekend and check it out!
So on this new trail a winch will be required?
Is there any easy out spots or go arounds?
I dont have a winch but would like the challenge. I was there on opening day and the most "extreme" trail at that time was Nut Check and that was not too difficult. (I did lose a rear window on it)
How much more difficult is this new trail vs Nut Check?
Post ome pics of the new trail.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 11:36 AM   #225
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picture of this YJ?
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Old September 27th, 2009, 04:38 PM   #226
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Old September 27th, 2009, 04:42 PM   #227
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getting to the spot in the first pic not so bad, trying to get set up to make the little kick to continue on the trail is tough, no place to get the front around and there is a good size hole your left rear will drop into with the left front climbing the bank, you can guess how that goes.....needed a winch to get past that spot, once through there try to keep your left wheel on the bank, clearly didn't work for me, winched a little further than the trail opens a liitle but there are big tractor tires in the middle of the trail so you have to manuever around or over those, then an easy exit
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NOTE: you guys running front lockers will do better than I did with open front diff and welder rear.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 08:44 PM   #229
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I will have to find this trail in the future.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 07:33 AM   #230
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picture of this YJ?

A well built rig will go through there somewhat easy. A few of us went through there last weekend and had no problem. It is a fun trail though. Twists you up good. Lockers front and rear will pull you up the trail with no problem.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 07:54 AM   #231
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A well built rig will go through there somewhat easy. A few of us went through there last weekend and had no problem. It is a fun trail though. Twists you up good. Lockers front and rear will pull you up the trail with no problem.
Thanks for the explanation, once you get into the "hard stuff" the level of difficulty becomes really grey based on one persons interpretation. Looks like a fun little trail! I'm glad to see improvements are already taking place.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 09:56 AM   #232
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had a great time out there this weekend with the farm truck. Thanks to the guy in the FJ and his buddies for helping me get out with only minor body damage!
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Old September 28th, 2009, 10:12 AM   #233
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If I pay the $15 to get in, does that cover both my ATV and my Jeep or is it $15 per vehicle?
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Old September 28th, 2009, 10:15 AM   #234
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had a great time out there this weekend with the farm truck. Thanks to the guy in the FJ and his buddies for helping me get out with only minor body damage!
No prob. I will try to get all the pics and such up this week. Working on my photography site at the same time.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 10:22 AM   #235
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Thanks for the explanation, once you get into the "hard stuff" the level of difficulty becomes really grey based on one persons interpretation. Looks like a fun little trail! I'm glad to see improvements are already taking place.
Here's the new trail raitng system for out there at Bundy Hill, along with the names of the existing trails that fall into each level.
This scale will be posted on the trails in the up coming weeks, and will be on the web site soon. Kinda give you and idea of what you can expect.


Level 1: GREEN
Trail surface consisting of loose rock, dirt, and sand with some
slick rock surfaces. Erosion, washes, gulches and rock steps
no higher than 12" may be present. 4WD is recommended with
good ground clearance and driving skills. Aggressive tires and
limited slip would be a plus. Water and mud is possible.
  • Family Area The Pit
  • Service Roads
  • Mud Flats Area
  • Scramble Area
Level 2: YELLOW
Trail surfaces are rutted, rocky and sandy with steps not
exceeding 14", with considerable slick rock surfaces and
are difficult with considerable erosion damage but passable.
Water not exceeding 12" with some mud possible.
Good vehicle approach and departure angles are helpful. Tall tires (32" plus)
and traction added device (lockers, limited slips) is recommended.
Above average driving skills are desirable. A winch would be a plus.
Enhanced suspension travel and ground clearance are helpful.
  • Welcome Hill
  • Pea Stone Point 1 & 2
  • Lil Hill Chicken Hill
  • Luke’s Ladder
  • Deer Run
  • Devils Hole
Level 3: RED
Trail consists of rock, trees, sand and considerable slick rock
with many steps exceeding 24”. Off camber inclines and declines
are prevalent. Enhanced off road equipment is required including
locking devices (front & rear), tall tires, maximum vehicle ground clearance, and tow hooks.
A winch is desirable. Excellent driving
skills are required. Vehicle, mechanical, equipment, or body damage is likely.
Roll over possibilities exist.
  • Nut Check
  • (NEW) Mild to Wild
  • Bareback Trail
  • The Rock Crawl
  • Satins Ladder
Level 4: ORANGE
Let the carnage begin! Buggy territory. Street driven 4X4’s should
not attempt this trail. Modified factory vehicles will not be able to complete this trail.
Excellent driving skills are required. Roll over is
very common. Winches, spare parts and tools are recommended.

  • Great Lakes Gulch
  • Warn Valley
  • Bounty Gap (Has not been attempted yet)

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sweet. i did a level 3 trail with a stock 3/4 ton extended cab dodge. now if i could just figure out if it was driver skill that got me through, or the 4 guys in the back and 2 spotters that saved me from tipping over. and yes body damage is likely.
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Here's the new trail raitng system for out there at Bundy Hill, along with the names of the existing trails that fall into each level.
This scale will be posted on the trails in the up coming weeks, and will be on the web site soon. Kinda give you and idea of what you can expect.

I dont mean to start anything over this but from what I saw "warn valley" wasnt "buggy territory" and based on what CV Windows said and a full body vehicle with 35" tires and lockers front and back could have walked it. I think when a locked up full body jeep on 37's is struggling then it's "buggy only" territory.

The hardest part of trail rating is that it comes down to peoples interpretation of what's there and what's possible and not everyone thinks the same things are possible.

I think everything should drop down a level and the easiest level should become "access roads".
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sweet. i did a level 3 trail with a stock 3/4 ton extended cab dodge.
my point exactly, a full size stock truck without body damage shoudl stop around a level 2 trail and at least one locker should be needed at a level 3 in a smaller trail friendly vehicle.

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well if the girlfriend lets me use her truck again after she finds the dents in the door(thats if i cant fix them at work today) i think i will undo the front and rear sway bars and give nut check a try. maybe i will build some rock rails too to prevent further damage.
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sweet. i did a level 3 trail with a stock 3/4 ton extended cab dodge. now if i could just figure out if it was driver skill that got me through, or the 4 guys in the back and 2 spotters that saved me from tipping over. and yes body damage is likely.
Could you let us know the name of this trail so we can fix it We will not be cutting any new trails this week, but we may work on the old ones
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