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Old July 20th, 2009, 08:31 PM   #1
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that we live in a make believe kind of world? have you ever thought about how much of our everyday lives is completely man made? give you a list of examples.
time, measurements, numbers, letters, religions, names and words. all of these things are completely made up. just food for thought.
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i'm not a pothead. but i do think to much. i mean think about it. if you were trapped in your house from birth till death with no clocks period and no outside ways to tell time. you wouldn't ever know what it was. in reality time is so imprecise. i mean seriously what difference would there be if we had 12 hour days instead of 24 hour days and an hour was equal to 2 hours. and all these letters, numbers and words i've just typed mean nothing if we didn't make them up to mean something.
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i'm not a pothead. but i do think to much. i mean think about it. if you were trapped in your house from birth till death with no clocks period and no outside ways to tell time. you wouldn't ever know what it was. in reality time is so imprecise. i mean seriously what difference would there be if we had 12 hour days instead of 24 hour days and an hour was equal to 2 hours. and all these letters, numbers and words i've just typed mean nothing if we didn't make them up to mean something.
a day in hours is a chronological representation of how long it takes the earth to circle the sun. in order for 1 hour to become the equivalent of 2 in order to make a 12 hour day, the orbit of the earth would need to be distanced further from the sun.

this would in turn also lengthen our year.
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i'm not a pothead. but i do think to much. i mean think about it. if you were trapped in your house from birth till death with no clocks period and no outside ways to tell time. you wouldn't ever know what it was. in reality time is so imprecise. i mean seriously what difference would there be if we had 12 hour days instead of 24 hour days and an hour was equal to 2 hours. and all these letters, numbers and words i've just typed mean nothing if we didn't make them up to mean something.
I dont think your time thought is correct. We did not determine time or create it, we simply harnessed it. Regardless of what we call it (i.e. minute or hour, day or week) we are only quantifying something ever present.

Say a day was only 12 hours vs 24 hours. There wouldnt be any difference in our day except our units of measure would be different. Our bodies would react accordingly to changes in light and dark periods, so by our generation we wouldnt know the difference.
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just think if you were to move at the speed of light, time would stand still and then time would be impercise, as it is now time is very percise down to the second
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The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

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i'm not a pothead. but i do think to much. i mean think about it. if you were trapped in your house from birth till death with no clocks period and no outside ways to tell time. you wouldn't ever know what it was. in reality time is so imprecise. i mean seriously what difference would there be if we had 12 hour days instead of 24 hour days and an hour was equal to 2 hours. and all these letters, numbers and words i've just typed mean nothing if we didn't make them up to mean something.
It sounds like you are more concerned with the linguistics of units of measure. I mean yea, we could redefine how long an "hour" is and say that there are now only 12 per day but that only means that our new "hour" is just twice as long. I guess you could say that any unit of measure we define in space/time is arbitrary, but there is no debating the literal length of time that has passed, no matter what name you give it.

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a day in hours is a chronological representation of how long it takes the earth to circle the sun. in order for 1 hour to become the equivalent of 2 in order to make a 12 hour day, the orbit of the earth would need to be distanced further from the sun.

this would in turn also lengthen our year.

This would also likely extinguish all life as we know it on our planet.

I vote for keeping it a 24 hour day.
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Actually time is not constant anywhere. The faster you are moving the slower time goes by but you have to have a frame of reference to judge time at all. Otherwise how would you know you are moving? Thats what an hour is, a measure of the the earth's motion in space relative to the sun.

In other words time is relative, space and time are essentially the same.

Quantum physics puts human knowledge in perspective. The more we learn the less we know.
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This would also likely extinguish all life as we know it on our planet.

I vote for keeping it a 24 hour day.


I never claimed it was an idea I recommend.
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i'm not a pothead. but i do think to much. i mean think about it. if you were trapped in your house from birth till death with no clocks period and no outside ways to tell time. you wouldn't ever know what it was. in reality time is so imprecise. i mean seriously what difference would there be if we had 12 hour days instead of 24 hour days and an hour was equal to 2 hours. and all these letters, numbers and words i've just typed mean nothing if we didn't make them up to mean something.
You're true in saying that we've made up most things. That's what Humans do, we try and control our surroundings. We've been wired that way. We try and explain things by what's around us. If that is true though, and anything that we have today is learned from nature, then were did we get the idea for Laws and morals. We're the only creature that has those...Kinda.

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Actually time is not constant anywhere. The faster you are moving the slower time goes by but you have to have a frame of reference to judge time at all. Otherwise how would you know you are moving? Thats what an hour is, a measure of the the earth's motion in space relative to the sun.

In other words time is relative, space and time are essentially the same.

Quantum physics puts human knowledge in perspective. The more we learn the less we know.
So then wouldn't there become a point were we wouldn't know anything? Honestly, I think there are some people in this world that have come to that point already.

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a day in hours is a chronological representation of how long it takes the earth to circle the sun. in order for 1 hour to become the equivalent of 2 in order to make a 12 hour day, the orbit of the earth would need to be distanced further from the sun.

this would in turn also lengthen our year.
No. A day is the length of time it take the earth to revolve about it's axis relative to the sun. A year is the length of time it takes the earth to circle the sun. The 2 are largely unrelated.

If you changed the definition of an hour to now equal 2 hours a day would become 12 hours long and life would go on.
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that we live in a make believe kind of world? have you ever thought about how much of our everyday lives is completely man made? give you a list of examples.
time, measurements, numbers, letters, religions, names and words. all of these things are completely made up. just food for thought.
Yes, I too find myself thinking about things like this. Sometimes too much.
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You're true in saying that we've made up most things. That's what Humans do, we try and control our surroundings. We've been wired that way. We try and explain things by what's around us. .................................................. .......................

Yep, that explains religion. Looking for explanations for things around us that we do not understand.
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I am surprised no one has proposed Metric Time. Getting away from the 12 inches per foot and going to powers of 10. 10 millihours in a centihour, 10 centihours in an hour, 10 hours in a day, etc... Of course, you'd still have 365 days per year, just no metricizing that, I guess. We only get around the sun so fast.
But, then again, a year on Mars isn't 365 days.
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I am surprised no one has proposed Metric Time. Getting away from the 12 inches per foot and going to powers of 10. 10 millihours in a centihour, 10 centihours in an hour, 10 hours in a day, etc... Of course, you'd still have 365 days per year, just no metricizing that, I guess. We only get around the sun so fast.
But, then again, a year on Mars isn't 365 days.
it's bad enough you can't buy any product now without knowing it's metric equivalent, hell i'm sure someone older the me remembers being able to buy things in quarts or pints. now it's all in liters. hell i seen now you can buy motor oil in 5.28 quarts just because it's equal to exactly 5 liters.
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Yep, that explains religion. Looking for explanations for things around us that we do not understand.
religion is completely made up. it's one persons attempt to control other people. hell god is completely made up. or else why would every religion have a different god. beside the fact that it's a made up superior being that of which we can not see, it does nothing to believe in something with no proof of it's existence either past or present. astronauts have already proven there is no heaven above us and we can already be certain there is no hell below us. products of nature did not come from the creation of one persons doings. they all came from the earth in one shape or form.
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