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Old July 13th, 2009, 12:48 PM   #1
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Default Kel-Tec P11 or PF9

Does anyone own one?

I'd love to hear first hand experience, and possibly be able to shoot one.

I've checked a few shops/ranges in the area, and none have either one available to rent.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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I've got a PF-9, I like the look and feel of it better than the similar styled P3AT and P32. Haven't shot the PF-9 yet though. Too little time, too many toys
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Old July 13th, 2009, 01:08 PM   #3
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I've got a PF-9, I like the look and feel of it better than the similar styled P3AT and P32. Haven't shot the PF-9 yet though. Too little time, too many toys
It looks better IMO too compared to the P11. I would like to stay with a single stack semi-auto, it's more concealable IMO. The P11 holds more rounds, but it's a double stack.

I was considering a Walther PPS too, similar size to the PF9 but a little too expensive. I want to find a very similar size replacement for my AMT Backup .380 in a 9mm or larger that will still fit all the holsters I have.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 01:26 PM   #4
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I have the p11, its not something you would want to shoot everyday for a long time. It has a pretty hard trigger pull as well. I have never had any trouble with it though. Shoots everytime, and I have never had in Jam on me. Overall I think its good for a carry gun, and the price is right.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 02:03 PM   #5
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Sig saur p232 .380, good piece, single stack, never jammed, light and comfortable to carry
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Old July 13th, 2009, 02:59 PM   #6
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Sig saur p232 .380, good piece, single stack, never jammed, light and comfortable to carry
Every Sig I've shot I have never liked. They do feel nice, but they are overpriced IMO.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 04:39 PM   #7
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Every Sig I've shot I have never liked. They do feel nice, but they are overpriced IMO.
true a little over priced, but I did like the feel and fit, comfortable. I don't even notice that I have it on.
What about the never liked part, recoil?
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Old July 13th, 2009, 05:04 PM   #8
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true a little over priced, but I did like the feel and fit, comfortable. I don't even notice that I have it on.
What about the never liked part, recoil?
Not that concerned with it. I don't care if my hand hurts if I just saved my ass.

My .380 does kill my hand after 50 rounds or so, but it's manageable. Shooting .38 Special +P through a S&W Airweight is some kick though, damn.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 09:14 PM   #9
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I'm Trading my P3AT for a PF9 next week, I will let you know. I decided I want something that's still easy to conceal in my pocket, but has more punch then the 380, and ammo is easier to find. If you have a place we can shoot it, ill let you try it out.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 09:19 PM   #10
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you cannot find ammo for the pistol you have, let alone ammo to feed a second one.
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Old July 20th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #11
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ive got a p11. i like it alot its tiny and stash's anywhere. but i dont have a ccw so i dont carry it or stash it lol. i just practice shoot once in a while with it.
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Every Sig I've shot I have never liked. They do feel nice, but they are overpriced IMO.
it seems like they are slow shooting guns as well. just my opinion
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Old July 20th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #13
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I've shot a few Kel-tecs at the range. They have done what they are supposed to, but they just feel cheap.

I was kicking around the idea of a P3AT, and maybe I still will, but I really would like the Kahr P380. For some reason I think I need a pocket/ankle rig and my CW9 is too big for either... I also may end up selling the CW9 for a PM9. I'm indecisive.
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I OC my PF-9. I will often carry it for 20 hours at a time, and a heavier pistol would make my hip and back sore after a long day, but not this. Also, you need to know that the P-11 & PF-9 have different actions. The P-11 has a longer, harder trigger pull, but has second-strike capability. The PF-9 uses the P3AT action and has a smoother, lighter (5lb) trigger pull and no second strike capability without partially racking the slide a minimum 3/8".

That being said, it's very accurate (1.5" @ 15 yards standing w/silvertips) and reliable, and the only thing that could make me switch is if Kel-Tec ever comes out with a P4T5, ya know?

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Old September 12th, 2009, 10:12 PM   #15
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it seems like they are slow shooting guns as well. just my opinion
Maybe some finger push-ups can fix the trigger finger, and pull the trigger faster, just a thought
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