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Old July 12th, 2009, 12:20 AM   #1
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turd build update

Well I finally pulled the trigger on a couple parts for my heep. Its getting a rc 4.5 inch kit, soft 8s, and trxus m/t 33 inches. While I'm doing this, I need to swap my brakes out cause of the warped rotor causing my death wobble. Hopefully at the same time, I can do a kj rear disc swap to replace my drums. Pics to come soon.

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Old July 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM   #2
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just curious. its obviously not good to run wrapped rotors since they cannt dissipate the heat which causes them to crack. but how is the warped rotor causing you death wobble? it appears that you have other problems then the rotors causeing the wobble.
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Old July 12th, 2009, 02:25 PM   #3
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just curious. its obviously not good to run wrapped rotors since they cannt dissipate the heat which causes them to crack. but how is the warped rotor causing you death wobble? it appears that you have other problems then the rotors causeing the wobble.
Yes, you are correct there, there are a lot of problems with the front suspension components, but the brakes topped it off. The steering stabilizer blew out about a month ago, and the rusted hole was pretty nasty, which really killed my driving. Also, there were apparently mismatched rotors/pads installed before, because when I replaced the front brakes this morning, the rotors were different sizes. The guy at autozone mentioned a while back that there were two different thicknesses or something, and I had one of each. The pads had big valley cracks in them, and the drivers rotor was warped to shit and probably would have composed quite the symphony if you put it on a turntable with all the grooves in it. The passenger one was smooth as glass. That had a lot to do with it. The sway links are fucked, too. The wobble is gone now, whether under braking or not. I'm enjoying steady straight line braking now and I don't feel like I'm going to die anymore. (Sorry for the run on paragraph)

In other news, I've sourced a few more parts for the rear brakes, and the tires are hopefully shipping tomorrow. Now its the waiting game for the rest of the parts, then I can tackle it all at once on the hoist.

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Old July 18th, 2009, 01:45 AM   #4
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Update

Well, a small update, mostly for the pictures. Sorry about the large pictures, hope it doesn't kill anyone's bandwidth.

I got my brakes finished and snapped a few shots of them. All EBC stuff, nothing special, but significantly better than stock.




I'm still waiting on some more parts from the dealer for the KJ rear conversion, should only be a couple more days.

One of the Cragars:


The bone stock front end as it sits now(less new brakes):


Before shot: (I see too much of this every day, but soon enough it'll be a thing of the past)


And last for tonight, I pulled a spring to get a sample next to my current wheels/tires.


There's more stuff on the XJ in that album on photobucket, but I'll spare you all of the boring bits like the throttle body and stuff.

On a lighter note, I believe the tires were shipped out either yesterday or the day before, as I received the request for money via paypal a couple days ago. Does anyone have a recommendation for a place around here that can mount/balance a TrXus M/T 33" properly for a decent price? I talked to my buddy at belle tire and he has informed me that he would absolutely dread doing that job, and that he doesn't think they'd be able to get it just right. From the research I've done, these tires are hit or miss for balancing, so I'm just a little concerned about getting it right.

More updates to come soon.
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Old July 18th, 2009, 02:00 AM   #5
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get some balancing sand called "equal". you can purchase it at any truck stop or store. it comes in a bag. all you have to do is mount one side of the tire, throw the bag in there. mount the rest. no balance required at all. the sand will balance the tire out. the sand will go to the light spot of the tire when its moving. its one of the better way to balance tires that will be getting nicked or cut up offroad. since when you balance tires you see weight up to .25 of an once. so since the sands in there its always in balance.
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Old July 18th, 2009, 03:05 AM   #6
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I've heard mixed results about that stuff from a few friends and one guy who tried it. Has anyone on here tried it with good results? From what I recall, part of the problem involved "low spots" inside the tire holding the sand, and somesuch complications on top of that. I'll look into it some more.
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Old July 18th, 2009, 03:47 AM   #7
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i as well as 3 friends run it in our tires. i do travel some roads once and a while so i want them balanced. 4wheelparts does this with their tire rim combo packages. none of us have ever had a problem with it.
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Old August 8th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #8
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Well, here's the update I've been waiting to give for quite some time. I finally got the lift on, and everything seems pretty nice so far. A few little kinks here and there need to be worked out, after I get my alignment done this weekend, of course. I don't have too many pictures, and what I do have is crap-phone quality, but I'll get my laptop charged so I can upload those tomorrow. Broken bolts, more broken bolts, rust, dirt in the eyes, and a cut and infected knuckle later and it's all done.

The ride is very different, and like the name implies (Rough Country) it's a little coarse at first. I'm very strongly considering pulling the rear sway bar cause I got all new leafs, and getting a gen 2 quick disco for the front. Also, there's a really loud sound coming from the back every time I hit a bump, but I think it might be the sheet metal I used to cover the "oops I snapped the shock bolts, so I'll just cut through the floor panel" holes flexing around. I'll have to figure out a clever solution to fix that. Otherwise, I'm very impressed with the trxus tires, and everything else as well.

Now it's time to start looking at what to get next (besides some recovery points front and rear). Also installed J&C battery cable kit today, and I have some IPF H4's on their way in the mail to go in next week.
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Old August 8th, 2009, 02:57 PM   #9
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how much of that balancing sand would i have to add to a 44in super swamper? thanks
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Old August 9th, 2009, 10:14 AM   #10
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how much of that balancing sand would i have to add to a 44in super swamper? thanks
I couldn't tell ya, I had traditiional weights put on around the wheel, and as far as I can tell, they're working flawlessly. However, from what I've read, the installing tech usually determines the amount. If you are doing it yourself, I think they have preweighed bags that can just be thrown into most any tire. Contact the company.
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Old August 9th, 2009, 11:28 AM   #11
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thanks for the info, cant wait to see a pic when its lifted, nice looking project
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Pics, as promised. Sorry again for the low quality, I snapped some more today with the real camera, and I'll post those tomorrow.







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Old August 10th, 2009, 01:06 AM   #13
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Maybe when I finish building headers for the roadrunner in the background there, I can get this thing on that hoist and finally do my rear main. I've had the parts for months now...







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Old August 10th, 2009, 03:15 AM   #14
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looks great im jealous
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Old August 10th, 2009, 09:36 AM   #15
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Looks great! Post up how that KJ conversion goes on the rear brakes. I've always wanted to do it but haven't. Also, what are you doing with the wheels that came off of your cherokee? I might be interested.......
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Thanks guys, this one was a real knuckle buster. After all the work we put into it for those three days, I'm happy with the turnout.

mrcean- I'm ordering the last of the KJ parts this weekend, and hopefully I should be able to get it done in my garage this week if they come in a decent timeframe. The old wheels/tires will probably hit the marketplace this afternoon.

I have the stated camera pics for now. Sorry about the darkness/brightness, this camera just doesn't seem to like me. I guess it's a D-SLR before I get my SYE and rear D/S


Here's the old wheel/tire, for mrclean and reference. Note the rust, and although you probably can't see it, I just noticed yesterday that the sidewall has started to slightly bulge a little bit.










It's sat there all weekend pretty much. It goes in for an alignment this afternoon, and maybe when I get home those IPF H4's will be on the porch and I'll have some more pictures to stick on here. I'm also starting work on the rust on the corner of the roof this afternoon and tomorrow, now that I have the garage to work with. As for clearance, I babied it in, and on the rack crossmembers, I had about 3.5-4 inches of clearance, but it sure didn't look like it. That means I can lift it more



*EDIT*
I've found the reason for my previous death wobble while getting it aligned today. I knew they were bad, but I'm getting all new ball joints and hubs up front. The right hub bearing was scratching pretty bad periodically, and it was only a matter of time before it caused a serious issue. It's being replaced and aligned as we speak. New stabilizer is going in at the same time. Hopefully I can save up for a little bit before something else bites me in the ass to fix it.

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Old August 14th, 2009, 01:41 PM   #17
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Well, the company I ordered the IPF's from online shipped me the wrong parts, so I decided to send them back and snag some Autopals from motion offroad. They arrived just this afternoon, and so far I'm impressed. I think the H4 bulbs they shipped me will end up being replaced soon, hopefully with some HID H4's, but we will see.



On a side note, the lebaron hood vents showed up, too. I mocked those up to see what it'll be like. I'm excited to cut those holes in my brand new hood.



Unfortunately, the only reasonably viewable picture this camera could snap of both parts in action had waaaay too much exposure, and the w/b was all thrown off, so it's really bright. Plus it looks like the jeep peed itself on the garage floor. You can see the important parts, though.

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Old August 14th, 2009, 01:47 PM   #18
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ummmm bacon


that things looks sweet
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Old August 21st, 2009, 11:34 PM   #19
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Well, it'll be a little longer before I have the resources to do any more major work to the XJ. I got the HID's in the mail Wednesday, and so far I'm blown away. They, however, are pissing other drivers off, so I need to get on re-aiming them quickly. In the mean time, I'm out of cash for a while for the heep, because of my shiny (not so) new toys I got in the mail today before work. I'll post some shots of the HID's as soon as I get a chance to with a decent camera.

For now, new toys:







Shitty cell phone pics, sorry. All my money is hanging in a 12U rack right now.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 01:23 PM   #20
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What are you doing with all them switches and routers???
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