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Old July 8th, 2009, 08:28 PM   #1
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Since 1994, ACORN has received more than $53 million in direct federal funding. And, over the years, ACORN and its employees have also been the subject of investigations, indictments, and consent decrees in states all across the nation for election-related activities that run afoul of the law.

This isn’t a political witch hunt, as many Democrats claim. The prosecutors who have brought the charges against ACORN and its employees are both Republican and Democrat. They’re doing their jobs, enforcing the law and protecting the integrity of the voting process.

Yet even as fresh charges were being filed against ACORN and its employees in Nevada and Pennsylvania, Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives worked to protect the stream of tax dollars to this organization. They stripped down language that I had put in a mortgage reform bill (HR 1728) – language that would have ensured that Congress sets a high bar for who has access to your tax dollars.

Congress and the Administration have been on a spending spree with your money, racking up trillion dollar deficits for years down the road. If Congress can’t draw the line here – if they can’t say that an organization repeatedly charged with violating the law and public trust should not have access to federal funds – where will they draw the line?

I urge you to sign this petition and join me in the fight to protect your tax dollars from being used and abused.

--Rep. Michele Bachmann
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Dont forget about how they went door to door and would only register those who planned on voting for barrack hussein.
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Biggest Looney in Washington.
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So you support government funding going to ACORN?
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I could of swore it was Barney F and Nancy P
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uh, pelosi and that racist black senator from pennsylvania are the biggest looneys.
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So you support government funding going to ACORN?


She gets her information through her tin foil hat.

Her latest is because she claims ACORN is going to run the Census. Simply wrong, ACORN is one of more than 34,000 organizations that have volunteered to help advertise the importance of the Census.

The Census bureau hires temp workers and runs the census. I was one of those temp worker in 1980.

No one Officially representing ACORN will be running any part of the Census.

Bachman also said that she would not fill out her Census form because it was not constitiutional to ask anything more than how many people live in the house..........wrong.

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..........The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct........
In other words, the Constitution requires Congress to conduct a census, but it allows that same Congress to establish laws on the manner it will be conducted. They get to shape the census.

Bachman will stand in violation of the very Constitution she proclaims to support if she does not fully fill out her forms.
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CONGRESSMAN BACHUS STATEMENT ON THE “TARP FOR MAIN STREET” ACT Thursday, 09 July 2009 WASHINGTON - Congressman Spencer Bachus, Ranking Member on the House Financial Services Committee, made the following statement today during the Full Committee hearing on H.R. 3068, the "TARP for Main Street Act."
"Mr. Chairman, I oppose this legislation for several reasons.
"Start with the constitution, Article One, Section 9 of the Constitution requires that all draw downs of the general fund of the Treasury must go through the appropriation process. However, this bill circumvents the appropriations process by sending funds directly from the general fund of the Treasury to the housing trust funds. That's $6.2 billion.
"According to the minority staff on the Senate Committee on Budget, the federal government has pledged more than $9.7 trillion to address our economic credit crisis, including billions for foreclosure mitigation initiatives. For instance, Treasury has committed $75 billion for loan modification and foreclosure prevention. Instead of using the TARP dividends to offset these obligations, Chairman Frank's bill spends them. The legislation also increases the federal debt.
"Any new federal commitment would come on top of our existing $10.9 trillion national debt and an estimated 2009 budget deficit of $1.8 trillion, despite the fact that the dividend provisions included were intended to make taxpayers whole for any bailouts committed. This bill obviously flies in the face of that commitment.
"Today, soaring deficits are the biggest threat to financial stability, economic recovery and job growth. Vice President Biden acknowledged that the Administration misread the economy. But their solution is to propose even more deficit spending, including potentially another multi-billion dollar ‘government' stimulus and a new $1.5 trillion government-run health care plan.
"Now we have the Chairman's new legislation to divert $6.5 billion from TARP to finance an Affordable Housing Trust Fund. Most disturbingly, this legislation would transfer $1.5 billion to the Neighborhood Stabilization Program which could be accessed by ACORN, a community group notorious for its efforts to commit voter fraud.
I guess anyone that bucks the liberal cash cow is a loon.
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She gets her information through her tin foil hat.

Her latest is because she claims ACORN is going to run the Census. Simply wrong, ACORN is one of more than 34,000 organizations that have volunteered to help advertise the importance of the Census.

The Census bureau hires temp workers and runs the census. I was one of those temp worker in 1980.

No one Officially representing ACORN will be running any part of the Census.

Bachman also said that she would not fill out her Census form because it was not constitiutional to ask anything more than how many people live in the house..........wrong.


In other words, the Constitution requires Congress to conduct a census, but it allows that same Congress to establish laws on the manner it will be conducted. They get to shape the census.

Bachman will stand in violation of the very Constitution she proclaims to support if she does not fully fill out her forms.
uhhhhh the plan is and always has been for the dummy brigade to oust the census bureau and let politicians and special intrests like acorn in accordance to pad the numbers so to speak and divert the money to the ghetto.
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Even before the news about Mr. Groves, Republicans were uneasy about the census, given a White House statement several weeks ago that the new census director would “work closely with White House senior management,”

Damn that tin foil hat.

It's probably nothing...
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uhhhhh the plan is and always has been for the dummy brigade to oust the census bureau and let politicians and special intrests like acorn in accordance to pad the numbers so to speak and divert the money to the ghetto.

Who's plan? Hear it from Boss Rush?

p.s. I am not a johnny come lately to the despise Rush brigade, I have been disgusted by him since I was first exposed to him in the late 70's.


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Damn that tin foil hat.

It's probably nothing...

What? The white house taking an interest in what is going on in Government? Say it ain't so.
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She gets her information through her tin foil hat.

Her latest is because she claims ACORN is going to run the Census. Simply wrong, ACORN is one of more than 34,000 organizations that have volunteered to help advertise the importance of the Census.

The Census bureau hires temp workers and runs the census. I was one of those temp worker in 1980.

No one Officially representing ACORN will be running any part of the Census.
Running? No. Heavily involved? yes.

Census = non partisan

ACORN = partisan

If you think that it isn't a problem having ACORN involved in any part in the census or anything else related to the gov't then you have no idea what ACORN is about. Links to Citizens Consulting Inc and the SEIU, the TIDES foundation, the Woods foundation(Bill Ayres), the billions of federal dollars being funneled into this group of criminals and thugs is sickening.

Have you read "rules for radicals"? You should.

It's dirty Pete, very dirty.

Back on point.....

Read below about the white house and ACORN "partnering" up for the census count. Hey wait I thought the constitution said that congress had power over the census? Hmm.... Didn't Pres. Obama campaign against increased executive powers? I guess it's different now that he is the executive.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ds-for-census/

First it was President Obama trying to break all precedent and run the 2010 census from within the White House. While the administration finally backed down from that politicization of the census, it clearly hasn't learned its lesson. Now it is having ACORN officially "partner" with the Census to help count the number of Americans in the country. It's like Santa trusting a child to tell him how many times he or she has been good in the past year.

We could write a book on the false voter registrations submitted by ACORN. There are bizarre stories, such as one from Cleveland, where ACORN employees reregistered the same individual 77 times, even though the individual kept on telling the ACORN workers that he was already registered. But ACORN's people kept offering to bribe him with cigarettes or money to get him to fill out another form. Similar examples from across the United States are too numerous to count.

King County (Seattle) election officials were forced to remove 1,762 voter registrations submitted by one group of ACORN employees. Five employees were sentenced to jail. The Delaware County Times noted that out of 2,000 fraudulent voter registration forms in that Pennsylvania county, nearly every single one was filed by ACORN. Chicago had 10,000 false registrations. Criminal indictments and convictions have been leveled in numerous states.

Last year alone, voter fraud investigations took place in 12 states: Connecticut, Florida, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin.

ACORN admits (how could it not?) that it has made mistakes in accurately registering people to vote. Brian Kettenring with ACORN told the Times that most of these concerns - and linking them to the census - were "right wing fantasies." He pointed out that he guessed that "fewer than three dozen" ACORN employees have been convicted of fraud, "but that is only a guess." Kettenring also claims that many individuals who said they were paid to register numerous times had "lied."

Yet the systematic problems year after year and in state after state make it impossible to blame ACORN's problems on a few rogue employees. There is a much deeper problem here.

A news story earlier this week incorrectly reported that the Census would be paying ACORN workers to count people, but the voter registration problems have occurred even without any state secretaries of state paying ACORN. The concern is why the Census should be "partnering" with an organization that has so frequently bribed people to register voters.

For a nonpartisan organization such as the Census, ACORN's political connections are also troubling. Last year, the Obama campaign paid ACORN $800,000 to register voters and do other work. ABC News' Jake Tapper caught Obama campaign officials in numerous attempts to hide Mr. Obama's past connections with ACORN. Mr. Obama also gave ACORN money when he served on the board of the Woods Fund in Chicago. For all the work that he has done for ACORN over the years, Investor's Business Daily called Mr. Obama "ACORN's Senator."

ACORN is a "bipartisan" organization in name only. Giving it any type of official role in the process, including making it a so-called "Census Bureau partner," is disturbing. We worry about how ACORN may misuse this affiliation in representing itself to others.

What is at stake from an accurate census is huge. The allocation of seats in Congress, and ultimately questions of who controls it, depend on an accurate count. Much of the money Congress spends is allocated based on the census. Requiring that the census be non-partisan is the first requirement that must be met.

Disturbingly, the Census Bureau was unwilling to answer any questions on the record, and was only willing to talk off the record to try to dissuade the Times from writing this editorial. We wish that we could share the off-the-record responses with our readers. The only official response was a short one-sentence email that any concerns were "baseless." If the concerns are so "baseless," why won't the people at the Census discuss the issue on the record?
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No doubt ACORN has had legal problems. Any organization of thier size is likely to get unscrupulous people hired in. There has not been one case where they have been convicted of a systematic pattern of fraud prepetrated by the organization as a whole. If they are found guilty of any conspiracy, they should feel the full weight of legal punishment.

But I am not here to defend ACORN, I could care less about them.

I am here about how ACORN fits in with the Census.

This article on PolitiFact says it better than I can, with references:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-money-work-c/

If you care about facts, read the whole thing.



And here is some fun stuff concerning Bachman on this subject.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-only-require/



Another good read on the ACORN/Census subject, with references:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec..._the_2010.html



Oh yeah, I had to go through a Federal Background check back in 1980 too.
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Another good read on the ACORN/Census subject, with references:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec..._the_2010.html
Your really full of yourself, The same Annenberg Obama served as Board Chairmen.
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Your really full of yourself, The same Annenberg Obama served as Board Chairmen.
Nope, I am actually not full of myself, thank you very much.

I just use sources that have reputations for investigating these stories and bringing out the facts. But, since they do not agree with your perception of how things are, they are not valid.

Please, give me a list of sources that produce facts that you will accept so I do not waste my time.
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Nope, I am actually not full of myself, thank you very much.

I just use sources that have reputations for investigating these stories and bringing out the facts. But, since they do not agree with your perception of how things are, they are not valid.

Please, give me a list of sources that produce facts that you will accept so I do not waste my time.
Let's see Obama pays ACORN $800k to work on his campaign.
Annenberg employed Obama as Board chairmen.
Annenberg releases factoid exonerating ACORN.

er, good work there Pete
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Let's see Obama pays ACORN $800k to work on his campaign.
Annenberg employed Obama as Board chairmen.
Annenberg releases factoid exonerating ACORN.

er, good work there Pete
Hey wait, they didn't mention that on the Huffington post.

Pete, if you've known about Rush since the 70's you must be a Royals fan.

There is no defense of Acorn, they are completely corrupt.
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Hey wait, they didn't mention that on the Huffington post.

Pete, if you've known about Rush since the 70's you must be a Royals fan.

There is no defense of Acorn, they are completely corrupt.
Acorn=Typical Ninja behavior. That is all.
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