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Old June 18th, 2006, 09:47 PM   #21
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Old June 18th, 2006, 09:47 PM   #22
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And it starts...
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Old June 18th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #23
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yeah, because the fibers stretch they will lock together and be nearly impossible to get apart.

Yes, the piece of wood can become a projectile also, but it's much less likely to be deadly. Which would you rather get hit with?
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Old June 18th, 2006, 09:53 PM   #24
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got a point to make or are you just upping your post count?
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Old June 18th, 2006, 09:58 PM   #25
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yeah, because the fibers stretch they will lock together and be nearly impossible to get apart.

Yes, the piece of wood can become a projectile also, but it's much less likely to be deadly. Which would you rather get hit with?

I just have never seen this done before. Never really even saw 2 straps tie together.

I see why to use the stick but I would honestly rather lose the strap or take forever to undo them than put myself/ friends/ family in any danger.

I think the video idea is great though.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 09:58 PM   #26
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Regarding Chains, they have their uses, but people use them like straps and thats a no-no. I've seen people get a good running start with a chain, which just shock loads everything and thats when things break.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #27
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got a point to make or are you just upping your post count?
Both maybe. I guess the real question is not are you guys capable of making the video, but are you making a video that people will voluntarily watch and learn from. I mean I know the people on here will watch it but how many of the people outside of our little group do you expect this to reach?

I'm not criticizing I'm just wondering the scope of your project.
I'm just sad to see that it took a life to make you make the video.

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Old June 18th, 2006, 10:21 PM   #28
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any thing you pull with is only as strong as its weakest link. Main thing you need is knowledge. Accidents will happen in life, So that would make knowledge the most important link.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 10:30 PM   #29
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Both maybe. I guess the real question is not are you guys capable of making the video, but are you making a video that people will voluntarily watch and learn from. I mean I know the people on here will watch it but how many of the people outside of our little group do you expect this to reach?

I'm not criticizing I'm just wondering the scope of your project.
I'm just sad to see that it took a life to make you make the video.
We'll reach more than we will doing nothing.

I think that between the numerous web sites and organizations I'm part of, and those that other member are a part of, we could probably reach a pretty sized segment of the wheeling community.

I'm under no delusions that I'm going to save the world, But if I can prevent 1 needless death it'll be worth it.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 11:16 PM   #30
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No doubt...with all the web sites out there...the butterfly effect can happen. Over time it could reach thousands of people.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 11:32 PM   #31
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Brewmenn, it's a great idea regardless of what some may think. I don't understand the reason for certain comments. Anyway keep us posted so we can help.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 12:30 AM   #32
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i just think it would be a good idea, just to refresh peoples memorys, teach them new and proper methods of pulling someone out, not everone has experience out on the trail like say younger guys so they need to learn somewhere other then just guessing and hoping, its really not a common sense issue, if you've never done it or seen it be done theres no way for you to really know what your doing is wrong or right, so even if this video only reaches a few people, the few people can share their knowledge out on the trail with friends...so i give ya props if ya make the video
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Old June 19th, 2006, 04:03 AM   #33
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if you make it we will watch it




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Old June 19th, 2006, 05:46 AM   #34
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I'm in on the video crew here for editing and hosting. I sit on about 800 gigs un-used a month and would gladly pay if it went over that.
It really sucks that someone had to die to get this started but if it saves another good.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 07:03 AM   #36
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just had a thought for additional means of distribution. torrent? utube? googlevideo?

of course, the torrent idea will only work if it gets equal mention in all of the distribution methods, and if some people keep it seeded.

for this video to be of high enough resolution to be effective, I'm guessing it'll be over 10 megs, which is larger than most people are willing to do an e-mail attachment on.

and, not to add gore, but for the message in the video to hit home hard enough, I personally think at least a short memorium of those that are known to have been lost through improper procedure, and/or the images of jeeps with lines through the head rest, etc might at least warrant a moment or two in the video. it'll all add up to a relatively "heavy" sized video.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 07:15 AM   #37
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just had a thought for additional means of distribution. torrent? utube? googlevideo?

of course, the torrent idea will only work if it gets equal mention in all of the distribution methods, and if some people keep it seeded.

for this video to be of high enough resolution to be effective, I'm guessing it'll be over 10 megs, which is larger than most people are willing to do an e-mail attachment on.

and, not to add gore, but for the message in the video to hit home hard enough, I personally think at least a short memorium of those that are known to have been lost through improper procedure, and/or the images of jeeps with lines through the head rest, etc might at least warrant a moment or two in the video. it'll all add up to a relatively "heavy" sized video.
I'm ok with doing a flash site for this. This will allow the video to buffer in and start very quickly and load in the backround.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 07:25 AM   #38
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Tell me, why dont they just make a 3" x 60' strap? or 4" x 80'? there must be some safty issue with it. So would the same reason they dont make one that long still apply if we tie 2 30 footers together? Honest question I have tied them together but dont feel safe doing it.
I believe the reason is it's impractical, it's not needed all that often, would be heavy and tak up a lot of room, and most of the time you only need a 20 or 30 footer, often too long causes problems of its own... so it's more practical to put 2 together when though few times arise, but it needs to be done properly as Bruce said.
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I believe the reason is it's impractical, it's not needed all that often, would be heavy and tak up a lot of room, and most of the time you only need a 20 or 30 footer, often too long causes problems of its own... so it's more practical to put 2 together when though few times arise, but it needs to be done properly as Bruce said.
The longer it is the more elastic in nature it is. This stores more energy also when you're snatching with it.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 07:49 AM   #40
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Im not raining on a parade here but the first thing you want on any such video is a damn good dissclaimer . If you tell some one not to do somthing its not such a big issue .

When you are " instructing " some one how they should do it your liability becomes huge . By instructing you are making a claim of expert in the field , while i personally have credentials to lay such a claim i would not be willing to put my name on such a vid . No one ask me to i understand , im just making a point to protect you guys that have the best of intents with this vid .
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