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Old July 12th, 2009, 08:36 PM   #161
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We talked about this at the What Lies Beyond Jeep Club meeting tonight and decided that the club is going to donate some money.

We are going to front $200 to help the cause, AND we are going to be holding a 50/50 raffle at the 4x4 show this Saturday and the proceeds will go to fighting this ticket.

So please, if you plan on attending the event, buy a ticket or two, lets raise some cash to help out!

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Old July 12th, 2009, 10:07 PM   #162
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Old July 13th, 2009, 05:56 AM   #163
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We talked about this at the What Lies Beyond Jeep Club meeting tonight and decided that the club is going to donate some money.

We are going to front $200 to help the cause, AND we are going to be holding a 50/50 raffle at the 4x4 show this Saturday and the proceeds will go to fighting this ticket.

So please, if you plan on attending the event, buy a ticket or two, lets raise some cash to help out!

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Thats is AWESOME!
Way to go What Lies Beyond!!!
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When cheese wiz is left in the tip of the can it because a rock hard cheese plug. So if you are too tall you should duck when you walk down the stairs. If you don't you can get a parking ticket.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #164
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Thankyou Very much to GLFWDA and WHAT LIES BEYOND JEEP CLUB and also UFWDA dont know what to say but thankyou from the bottom of my heart and everyone else helping us out

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Old July 13th, 2009, 10:03 PM   #165
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Thankyou Very much to GLFWDA and WHAT LIES BEYOND JEEP CLUB and also UFWDA dont know what to say but thankyou from the bottom of my heart and everyone else helping us out

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And think of how pissed and alone you felt on this when it first happened?
Good people around here and in this sport, all these people of this sport or community asks is that you do your part, as if everyone helps out it makes a world of difference.
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Old July 13th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #166
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And think of how pissed and alone you felt on this when it first happened?
Good people around here and in this sport, all these people of this sport or community asks is that you do your part, as if everyone helps out it makes a world of difference.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 08:35 AM   #167
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I am pleased to say that these gentleman have stood their ground and have agreed to take this issue to the courts. The precedence this may establish has the potential to impact all of us that enjoy Michigan's splendor with our families. Recognizing this level of precedence, in addition to many other things we have and will do to assist these gentlemen, Great Lakes Four Wheel Drive Association has made a $500.00 contribution to these gentleman's defense fund.

Unfortunately the law enforcement officers involved here were more interested in flashing the badge of authority in lieu of educating as had been indicated by the article in the newspaper. Until the MVUM is published the need for education is imperative. Once the MVUM is published, education still plays an integral part in that all individuals map reading skills are not one in the same.

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Old July 14th, 2009, 08:38 AM   #168
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I am pleased to say that these gentleman have stood their ground and have agreed to take this issue to the courts. The precedence this may establish has the potential to impact all of this that enjoy Michigan's splendor with our families. Recognizing this level of precedence, in addition many other things we have and will do to assist these gentlemen, Great Lakes Four Wheel Drive Association has made a $500.00 contribution to these gentleman's defense fund.

Unfortunately the law enforcement officers involved here were more interested in flashing the badge of authority in lieu of educating as had been indicated by the article in the newspaper. Until the MVUM is published the need for education is imperative. Once the MVUM is published, education still plays an integral part in that all individuals map reading skills are not one in the same.

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And think of how pissed and alone you felt on this when it first happened?
Good people around here and in this sport, all these people of this sport or community asks is that you do your part, as if everyone helps out it makes a world of difference.
you are right mini i have been wheeling for years by myself first time i go on a trail run with a group we got popped i was kinda pissed and i told Curbdog i was sorry
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Old July 16th, 2009, 08:41 AM   #170
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you are right mini i have been wheeling for years by myself first time i go on a trail run with a group we got popped i was kinda pissed and i told Curbdog i was sorry
Ron your an alright guy

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Have you contacted a lawyer yet? How much is your total charge going to be (aprox)?
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Old July 16th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #172
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We still need your support.
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Old July 18th, 2009, 08:59 AM   #174
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This was in UFWDA's newsletter:

An issue has come up in Michigan, where 4 vehicles and their drivers were ticketed for allegedly
driving off the designated route www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=140027 .
Great Lakes Four Wheel Drive Associations www.glfwda.org and UFWDA are assisting on this
case, and I am sure others are going to watch this case with lots of anticipation. The individuals
involved have setup a PayPal account to accept gifts to help offset the legal costs.
Be safe out there, have fun and stay on the trail.
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Old July 18th, 2009, 09:26 AM   #175
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Aside from the obvious monetary assistance , is there any other way "we" can support you guys in this case?
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Old July 19th, 2009, 08:06 AM   #176
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Aside from the obvious monetary assistance , is there any other way "we" can support you guys in this case?
I can think of a few ways
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Old July 19th, 2009, 08:11 AM   #177
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I can think of a few ways
Hey Disturban...
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I'm serious here.
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Aside from the obvious monetary assistance , is there any other way "we" can support you guys in this case?
I say just stay positive and keep checking in on the tread here, I will let you know if there is anything else you (or anyone) can do. And thanks for your gift it came out to $26.60.
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Its amazing how those things add up.
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We have been making some progress and now have a court date.
Please keep the gifts comming as this case does have an impact on all of us.
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