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Old June 29th, 2015, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Oakland County ORV park update for AUGUST post #37

Hi everyone,
We have asked for your turnout at the July 14th Commissioners meeting because it was slated as the DO-or-Die meeting to determine if this project will move forward. Some of you have graciously offered to take vacation days or make long drives to be here. As of right now, it looks like this is going to be an "information only" meeting without a vote. Unfortunately, the actual agenda will not be posted till 3 or 4 days before the meeting. So, I think it is unfair to ask you to take time off work or drive a long distance for something that may not be needed.

However, I think it would be good for more people to start showing up to show an interested in the process and let the commissioners see the interest. IF....... you can make it, I think it's great.

Part of the problem is that the park staff has been accused of "stacking the house". This can be counter productive. But, having interested people attend is still a sign of public support.

The MDNR is showing more and more support, and is offering more and more financial backing to the county. I don't have a clear idea of what this means other than to say that the MDNR "REALLY" wants this to happen. "HOW" it happens is still unclear to me.

Stay tuned and thanks for your support.

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Old June 29th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #2
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Thank you for keeping this thing going everyone involved
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Thanks for the update
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Old June 29th, 2015, 09:27 PM   #4
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thanks for the update. I was actually trying to find a way to get up there, but it's just a long drive so I'm glad you posted that info.

let us know what else we can do to help and thanks for all the hard work.
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Thank you Jim for update.
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Thanks for the update. Make a reminder post/update if you know more close to the meeting date. I'm within reasonable driving distance, its written into my calendar.
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Thanks for the update Jim .
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bump. Browsed around the BOC's website, couldn't find any notice of a meeting on the 14th.
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Interesting. I'll check into it. The meeting is still on for 2:00 on Tuesday.
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Interesting. I'll check into it. The meeting is still on for 2:00 on Tuesday.
I will be there. Send me a text monday to remind me.
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There is a schedule for Commission Meetings on DestinationOakland under the section “about us” and then “Commission”. You can get to it via the following link:
http://www.destinationoakland.com/Pa...ommission.aspx

You will also note that the Agenda Packets are posted the Friday before the Tuesday Meeting. These are now public documents and can/should be shared freely and widely. A link to the PDF is: http://www.destinationoakland.com/Do...n%20Packet.pdf

As a follow up to earlier discussion, this meeting will NOT be the YES/NO vote as earlier stated. I think a large turnout showing concern is a good thing. Although we have been asked to NOT flood the public comment period with comments, I don't see a flaw with a few people speaking up.

What to say? I can't tell you how to speak your mind. I only ask that you keep it short and polite. Becoming loud or rude will not gain us anything. Passion? Yes. Professionalism? Yes. You don't need to be in a suit and tie. On the other hand, you should't be wearing a greasy wife beater either.

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Will see you there tomorrow .
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Jim, @whiterhino, can I use your update for the facebook page? Support Oakland County ORV Park
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Well, we attended the parks commission meeting today. There was another presentation by park staff about what they envision and then another presentation by Ron Olson from the DNR. The DNR is very much in favor of this project and offers abundant support. They also envision the possibility of a 3rd party concessionaire to operate the park either with or without Oakland County's participation. I am not really sure what to think about the proposals. All I can say for sure is that the game plan has changed dram atically from the original plans and I don't think it is as good. But without the county feeling it's a good fiscal move, we are handcuffed. The good thing is that the process is still moving forward and I have yet to hear anything negative other than the county making sure it is a good fiscal move.

I would really like to say thank you to all those that attended today. Hopefully you got a feel for the slow wheels of government. There were questions asked today that were asked last year. And it's frustrating and irritating to know that several of our parks commission has not yet even viewed the site, even though there have been countless tours and invites. Shame on them. But back to the attendance, I know for a fact it made an impression. I was told afterwards that there has never been that large of a turnout for a commission meeting for a special project. Kudos to all of you

Based on the discussion today, it is my understanding that they will allow a "public input" meeting on August 11th. This is different than a "public comment" meeting. I believe that a "public input" meeting will allow for more interaction with the residents. I know that this has been said before, but I think "THIS" is the meeting that requires a huge user turnout. It was discussed that it would be held in the evening and in a larger meeting room to allow for a higher attendance. This is a good thing! Please plan to attend.

It sounds like the commission will vote in September. Will they? I simply don't know. I thought they were going to vote in April and here we are in July with nothing yet. The good side is that it hasn't been voted down.

We also met with some of the park staff after hours today to work on how to move forward. The DNR has suggested that "volunteer groups" could assist with the park planning and initial work. How would this work? We will continue to discuss options and ideas as we hear more from the DNR.

We were also pleased to hear that the DNR has gone out for bids on appraisals of the properties. This means that they are moving forward with the purchase of the land. The date mentioned was to have it purchased by the end of the year.
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