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Old June 15th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #1
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Default 'Cash for clunkers' bill would restrict sale of replacement parts

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'Cash for clunkers' bill would restrict sale of replacement parts
Congress is making a critical mistake that will have negative consequences for consumers who are unable or unwilling to purchase a new car. The so-called "cash for clunkers" bill, which seeks to restrict the sale of two major replacement parts - the engine and transmission - has been added to the Energy and Climate Change Bill.
Reducing the supply of quality, recyclable OEM (original equipment manufacturer) parts for vehicle repair will lead to increased prices on those essential replacement parts for consumers who need to get their cars fixed in order to maintain their employment.
This bill will also harm thousands of independent repair shops, auto restorers, customizers and their customers across the country. These businesses employ more than 850,000 people and are already distressed in this weak economy.
Repair businesses and consumers purchase these recycled components because of the substantial savings in reduced repair costs and lower insurance premiums.
Congress should understand the demand for such repair options and consider the implications of restricting them. Prohibiting parts resale will inevitably reduce access to replacement parts, which in turn will inflate prices.
The adverse financial consequence of this program, especially on the average American family, is real and has not been adequately considered. For that reason, Congress should allow professional automotive recyclers to harvest quality reusable replacement parts for those consumers who rely on this alternative repair option.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 12:09 AM   #2
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If you are too poor to buy a new car, use public transportation and further decrease greenhouse gases.

Get ready for the new Government Motors Chevy Trabant.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 08:32 AM   #3
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I hope this goes through. Then maybe enough people will be fed up and in turn, rise up.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 10:06 AM   #4
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Another failed government program, before it even gets rolling.
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im moving to canada....



















after i purchase my new car
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im moving to canada....



















after i purchase my new car
For what thier socilized health care plan? Make out your will first
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Old June 17th, 2009, 09:40 PM   #7
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So what happens when a vehicle is in a moderate accident that damages one of those two components. Insurance company (or owner) has to replace the vehicle?
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It is a temporary program through 11/01/09.


Trade-in Vehicle Requirements

* Be in drivable condition
* Be continuously insured and registered to the same owner for at least one year
* Have a combined fuel economy value of 18 mpg or less (Work trucks must be pre-2002 regardless of mpg)
* Not be more than 25 years old with historic or aesthetic value. These vehicles are valued by hobbyists or are a valuable source of restoration parts.

New Vehicle Requirements

* The new vehicle must have a manufacturer's suggested retail price of less than $45,000.
* New passenger cars with mileage of at least 22 mpg are eligible for vouchers. If the mileage of the new car is at least 4 mpg higher than the old vehicle, the voucher will be worth $3,500. If the mileage of the new car is at least 10 mpg higher than the old vehicle, the voucher will be worth $4,500.
* New small trucks or SUVs with mileage of at least 18 mpg are eligible for vouchers. If the mileage of the new truck or SUV is at least 2 mpg higher than the old vehicle, the voucher will be worth $3,500. If the mileage of the new truck or SUV is at least 5 mpg higher than the old vehicle, the voucher will be worth $4,500.
* New large trucks (pick-ups and vans weighing between 6,000 and 8,500 pounds) with mileage of at least 15 mpg are eligible for vouchers. If the mileage of the new truck is at least 1 mpg higher than the old truck, the voucher will be worth $3,500. If the mileage of the new truck is at least 2 mpg higher than the old truck, the voucher will be worth $4,500.
* Consumers can trade in a pre-2002 work truck (defined as a pick-up truck or cargo van weighing from 8,500-10,000 pounds) and receive a voucher worth $3,500 for a new work truck in the same or smaller weight class. There are no EPA mileage measures for these trucks; however, because newer models are cleaner than older models, the age requirement ensures that the trade will improve environmental quality. Consumers can also "trade down," receiving a $3,500 voucher for trading in an older work truck and purchasing a pick-up or van weighing between 6,000-8,500 lbs.
* The mpg values are EPA combined city/highway fuel economy as posted on the window sticker of new vehicles and can be found at fueleconomy.gov.
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Has this thing pasted yet? I want a new car :).....JK. Kinda. It would suck if this actually did limit buying new parts. I don't think most people could afford a brand new car everytime thier engine or Transmission went out.
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Has this thing pasted yet? I want a new car :).....JK. Kinda. It would suck if this actually did limit buying new parts. I don't think most people could afford a brand new car everytime thier engine or Transmission went out.
Yes it did "pasted".

It is a limited run program. Old cars will not just be junked and scrapped by the millions. They have to meet certain criteria and then the new vehicle bought must also meet certain criteria.

There is a lot of paranoia surrounding this program, I just don't see there being much validity to a lot of the concerns.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 12:59 PM   #12
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Has this thing pasted yet? I want a new car :).....JK. Kinda. It would suck if this actually did limit buying new parts. I don't think most people could afford a brand new car everytime thier engine or Transmission went out.
try owning a car in japan.
not that i care all that much about what they do, but it really sucks for them.
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Old June 21st, 2009, 01:15 PM   #13
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Old June 21st, 2009, 09:20 PM   #14
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who the hell comes up with this crap. you would think that with all the stupid crap our government does people would be more concerned.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 11:23 AM   #15
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Detroit will still do it, so get your used motors in D town
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 11:33 AM   #16
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I doubt that the legislastion made it very far to business owners. I just got a qoute for a buddy of mine last week for a replacement motor.... Nothing was said about it and I didn't know about this until I saw this thread today
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I doubt that the legislastion made it very far to business owners. I just got a qoute for a buddy of mine last week for a replacement motor.... Nothing was said about it and I didn't know about this until I saw this thread today
The legislation has passed. It is just not going to have the full effect the naysayers would have you believe.
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The legislation has passed. It is just not going to have the full effect the naysayers would have you believe.
that's kind of what I meant......
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