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Old June 12th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #1
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The other day I was telling a guy at work about someone I know who farms 200 acres of corn. The guy responds that 200 acres of corn is worth nothing, and the profit is usually around $10 dollars per acre... I dont know the first thing about farming, can this be true?
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Old June 12th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #2
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Well technically corn is worth something, apparently 10 bucks an acre from what that guy says. I'm not a farmer and don't know anything about farming, but I have driven through Iowa. That place is filled with corn.
I'd imagine the farmer probably has more than just corn, and the profit should probably be higher IMO, because that's just $2000 per season.
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Old June 12th, 2009, 12:10 AM   #3
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Thats what I was thinking, but I did not argue it because I really dont know, seemed low though
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Well just thinking about the costs to keep up a farm would seem way more than that. Machinery upkeep, taxes, bills, etc. I think after a season or two farmers usually rotate crops to keep the ground fresh as well, so that's why I figured the farmer had more than just corn to harvest.
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what is the average yield per acre for said farmer?
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well the problem with what a acre is that no farmer does just corn...they use more corn than they sell to feed livestock...they sell some but ususally sell some sweet corn which is a little side job just for some spending money in some cases ...
the real money is in dairy and beef/pork sales...
some do however sellcorn for e85...some sell wheet and hay soy beans ect......
but even in corn sales its alot more but i really dont know how to even figure out what they make for each acre
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Your friend reminds me of Lenny from the book mice and men, very simple. Corn is now about 4.75 an acre. Around here 100 bushels pre acre is the avg. so 475 per acre. roughly 30-40 % is the cost of see and fertilizer so that leaves you with 300 an acre profit. The problem is do you own the land and what kind of equipment did you buy. Most small farmers that own there land and keep their small older equipment running do very well for themself. 200 acres is 60k a year if their land and equipment is paid for. The problem is they want to get bigger. kinda like jeeping when its fun on 33s until your buddy gets 37s.So they rent more land at 150 an acre and buy new bigger equipment . used tractor to farm 200 acres is 10-15k, new fancy 4x4 tractor to farm more land is 120k. and then they don't make muck money on the land and keep the banks happy with the interest they are paying on their equipment. So when you see the guy on the older tractor and smaller planter, he is doing fine.
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Okay lets say I have 200 acres, I own my equipment, and I hire a few guys to help out (or can I do it myself). How much will I take home profit at the end of the year?
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grow HOPS, thats where the money is going to be at....
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I am not growing anything, a guy at work said this and it made me wonder, is that even possible to only profit $10 an acre
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her dad farms as a hobby... they make their money off of his electrical business and they alternate every year between beans and corn
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you need to sell hay, good 2nd cutting alfalfa is around 4~4.50 a bale, grass is around 3.50~3.75

bale 10 wagons in one day off of one 50 acre field and lets do the math

~125 bales per wagon @ lets say 4.25 a bale and you have 531.25 per wagon load, now multiply that by 10 wagons, you have a large sum of money.

even if you sale your hay @ 3.50 a bale you are still doing good. But you need a place to store what you don't sell and of course a haybine, rake, a tractor or two capable of running haybine and a baler, preferably 2 if doing large fields and a good 3/4 ton pickup.

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Most large farms would keel over and die without government subsidies. You are right, some of the small farmers who have their equipment paid for do ok but that's about it. Most farmers have this occupation becuase they love the job. They love everything about farming. I grew up a farmer and the farm was sold when I graduated from High School. By the time we sold the farm I could split a tractor in two, rebuild and replace just about any mechanical or electrical component, and acquired a general knack for mechanics. I wish to this day in some from that I had found a way to stick with farming. I enjoy the simple thrill of driving a tractor or combine every now and than. It's been a long time since I last had the oppurtunity to do anything in farming. By the way, unless you have big bucks to front the initial cost for hay and take care of it, it's not as profitable as you might think.
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well the problem with what a acre is that no farmer does just corn...they use more corn than they sell to feed livestock..\
Not all farmers raise livestock.
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Farmers make money if they are smart and put there money back into there farms. The ones the survive on the goverment programs are not farmers but slugs. Good farmers buy insureance and deal with things like men. Sometimes you gotta keep things lean to make ends meet but dont we all. My Grandfather has been raising fruit for 50 years and makes it every year on 1400 acres. Owns 20 newer tractors that are all paid for with cash, all bought new, and all his land is paid for with cash. That is the way to do it. If corn is only worth that then why are people growing it. It has went down since they are not making ethenol as much now. But i still think he is kinda full of shit.
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The other day I was telling a guy at work about someone I know who farms 200 acres of corn. The guy responds that 200 acres of corn is worth nothing, and the profit is usually around $10 dollars per acre... I dont know the first thing about farming, can this be true?
yes profit is nothing on corn anymore actaly we are loseing money last year and proply this year on corn it cost more to grow it then we get paid per bushel its 1.60 it take 1.75 to grow corn about per bushel
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in the equation somewhere: The gov't usually gives subsidies for growing certain crops. I assume Corn is one of them. So it would be more if you include subsidies.
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yes profit is nothing on corn anymore actaly we are loseing money last year and proply this year on corn it cost more to grow it then we get paid per bushel its 1.60 it take 1.75 to grow corn about per bushel
How did you lose last year on corn? The price jumped because of the flooding in the midwest. I know a couple of farmers out here that profited big time because they had a silo full at the beginning of the flood.
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$100 per acre for corn @ 250-300 Bushells per acre
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