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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:27 PM   #41
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Does that really suprise you? People get all bent out of shape if they have to do only 20 miles an hour. Then you have the guys in the 4x4's who think that 4x4 helps, well hate to tell you but it doesn't matter on ice. Trust me I know, I plow snow in this crap.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:28 PM   #42
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Michigan drivers forget about the snow all summer long and then cant remember how to drive in it the next year. I have seen this happen to people who have lived in Michigan their whole lives. I think the same applies to people who buy rear wheel drive vehicles and do not have another type of transportation

I have driven RWD vehicles ever since I have had my liscence. I see no reason why to avoid RWD in winter. I actually prefer it to FWD. It seems more predictable when you do loose control - easier to counteract. And I have only been in the ditch a few times. JMO though.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:40 PM   #43
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I have driven RWD vehicles ever since I have had my liscence. I see no reason why to avoid RWD in winter. I actually prefer it to FWD. It seems more predictable when you do loose control - easier to counteract. And I have only been in the ditch a few times. JMO though.
i second that....my dad taught me how to drive in the snow, by putting me in the drivers seat of his b250 (rwd work van) ..loaded with 2000 lbs worth of work tools and then the twenty foot trailer filled with the old shingles and roof decking from a house we had reshingled earlier that month....he reached across that console spun the wheel, stomped on the gas and set that heavy sucker a spinning in a wide open empty church lot.....(for those of you familiar with the church on the corner of spuirrel and walton, that lot)..and then calm as all hell..."OK, son correct it" ...what a blast..i was scared shitless......got it though and didnt hit anything....i have since driven all rwd vehicles....this will be my first year with 4wd if i can get the front yoke fixed before the next snow..if not i will just be a locked 2wd....fun....

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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:42 PM   #44
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i second that....my dad taught me how to drive in the snow, by putting me in the drivers seat of his b250 (rwd work van) ..loaded with 2000 lbs worth of work tools and then the twenty foot trailer filled with the old shingles and roof decking from a house we had reshingled earlier that month....he reached across that console spun the wheel, stomped on the gas and set that heavy sucker a spinning in a wide open empty church lot.....(for those of you familiar with the church on the corner of spuirrel and walton, that lot)..and then calm as all hell..."OK, son correct it" ...what a blast..i was scared shitless......got it though and didnt hit anything....i have since driven all rwd vehicles....this will be my first year with 4wd if i can get the front yoke fixed before the next snow..if not i will just be a locked 2wd....fun....

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Sounds like the line of thinking where you toss a kid in the water and tell him to swim.

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Old November 23rd, 2005, 09:01 PM   #45
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I have driven RWD vehicles ever since I have had my liscence. I see no reason why to avoid RWD in winter. I actually prefer it to FWD. It seems more predictable when you do loose control - easier to counteract. And I have only been in the ditch a few times. JMO though.
Yep give me a rear wheel drive without ABS if I can't have something awd or 4wd. I will take my plow truck over everything though :cool:

Its not the vehicles, its the idiots driving them.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 09:07 PM   #46
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Seen Semi's in the ditch, Cars all over in the ditch !! people driving like complete A HOLES !! I was in shock from the pure stupidness of Michigan Drivers caring about no one but themselves !!!
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Yep bet grandman has his hands full right now :dunie:
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 10:11 PM   #48
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Four hours to get to MSU from Grosse Ile this afternoon.

OMFG.

It got pretty bad over by A2 and Jackson - the road started to freeze.

Roads filled with asshats that don't understand basic physics.

4WD pickup / SUV pilots travelling at 70 MPH: attention - it still slides on snow-covered sub-freezing pavement. 4WD / AWD DOES NOT magically counteract the laws of physics and somehow negate a loss of traction on snow-covered pavement. In fact a higher center of gravity and shorter wheelbase works AGAINST you not spinning. The 4WD however, increases the odds you can extract yourself from the ditch / median.

Morons driving rice rockets: a 2500 - 3000 pound car with 10" wide closed block tires is essentially a sled. Park it - or at least stay away from me.

12-year old Taurus with bald tires, three different colored doors, bungee-corded trunk, one working headlamp, and no wipers: I'll bet you're not insured either. Drive into a ditch and stay there.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 10:14 PM   #49
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Yep, we have been running allday on the so called good Michigan drivers. I hate the first snow fall of the winter. They all have to learn how to drive in snow again!:tonka:
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well today was better out here west of Chelsea, the roads are all covered in ice the drivers have sped up to regular speeds and the ditches are empty... they learn fast.
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