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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Trailer Tires - Carlisle vs Goodyear My experience

started with:

5 carlisle radial tires

6 trips - 5 blowouts.


Every time I would have a blowout, I would exhange it for a good year radial ($22.00 more)

My last trip having carlisle's I had three goodyears and one carlisle left. The carlisle's belts exploded and took some tread off the goodyear, as well as tearing apart the trailer fender. This cost me $140 for the fender, and $100 to replace the goodyear that it destroyed.

After talking to numerous tire salesmen, I quickly found out that carlisle bias = very good, and their radial's are the absolute joke of the trailer tire industry.

Goodyear tires are the opposite. Their radials are great, and their bias tires are not that good.

Anybody also experience this?
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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:44 AM   #2
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I found the Carlisle USA Trail(205/75-15) bias tire works the best on my trailer. I just replaced all the Carlisle Sport Trail bias tires. They wear uneven on the trailer. I was told never run radials on trailers.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:52 AM   #3
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Stop overloading your trailer and running over curbs.

I blew 4 tires on my trailer in a week and came to find out that there were a recall on the tires, had belts braking and the tread was coming off.

we run radials and our new tires have not caused any issues.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:59 AM   #4
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i run general tires on my open car trailer. My enclosed trailer came with carlisles and quickly switched to the goodyear
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Old November 11th, 2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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I found the Carlisle USA Trail(205/75-15) bias tire works the best on my trailer. I just replaced all the Carlisle Sport Trail bias tires. They wear uneven on the trailer. I was told never run radials on trailers.
I heard similiar.
That bias ply were better for tracking/trailering and radials were for driving. I think its BS. I think any good road tire with the appropriate load range and sidewall. I had a blowout on a new bias ply driving cross country, I R&R with what was available, but am toying with the idea of swapping in the michelins off my jeep when I do the lift.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 10:04 AM   #6
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Here's my experience, pretty much the same. From http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280873 a couple of years ago:


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I bought a new trailer in Spring 03. It's a 16' deck with a 2' beavertail tag trailer rated for 7000lbs made by Interstate 1. It came with new Carlisle ST205/75R15s; which according to their site is a Load Range C tire.

I've made about 10 trips on it, so it probably has around 8000 miles on it. I tow either a 5000lb Wag or a 4500lb TJ Wrangler. I pull it behind my 03 2500HD with a 6.0L.

I had no problems last year with blow-outs, but this year I've blown out all four of the original tires in my past three trips; two on the last one. Before each trip I always make sure that I'm running 50psi cold (max for the tire).

The last tire didn't actually blow out because I pulled it when it started it's death wobble. When I looked at the tire, the treads are all uneven; so I'm guessing it blew a belt and it would only be a matter of time before it blew out like the others. The other three have had major blow-outs wher there is partial tread separation, and the steel belts on one portion of the tire are blown to hell.

What could be the cause for this? One guess is that sitting over the winter caused damage, or that maybe I'm running the limit of these tires. I wonder about the brand, but people generally like Carlisle tires, and I had luck with them on a smaller utility trailer I had for a couple of years (different size, and they were bias).

Anyway, any ideas on the problem? It's a pain and expensive to be blowing tires every trip, so if I means stepping up a size then I'd rather do that now rather than blowing more tires out; or if it's my storage methods then I'll adjust them.

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I've been running Goodyear Marathons for three years with 0 problems.

A few of my friends have been running Carlisle bias ply tires for years with no problems, so it does back up what you heard.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 10:10 AM   #7
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started with:

4 carlisle radial tires

6 trips - 4 blowouts.


Every time I would have a blowout, I would exhange it for a good year radial ($22.00 more)

My last trip having carlisle's I had three goodyears and one carlisle left. The carlisle's belts exploded and took some tread off the goodyear, as well as my tearing apart the trailer fender.

After talking to numerous tire salesmen, I quickly found out that carlisle bias = very good, and their radial's are the absolute joke of the trailer tire industry.

Goodyear tires are the opposite. Their radials are great, and their bias tires are not that good.

Anybody also experience this?

This would explain why I have a GoodYear with a Football sized blister.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:12 PM   #8
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I run Goodyear Radial on the 24' enclosed, and private brand bias on the open. I would just as soon run bias on all of my trailers.

The biggest problem with running non trailer tires on a trailer is that they don't like sitting for long perios of time, and end up with tread seperation issues, from what I have read. This is supported by my experiences with general purpose tires on trailers I have bought and used over the years.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #9
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I have carlisles on the boat trailer, 4 of em, Not sure fi they are radial or bias, but two are ridiculously bald and need to be replaced, but I have not had problems with them, I will report back later.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:27 PM   #10
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My trailer (grandpa's trailer) has Carlisle radials. I have taken it on every wheeling trip for 3 or so years now with no issues.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:28 PM   #11
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good tips. i am going to have to check my stuff
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:39 PM   #12
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I have Carlisle radials and have had zero problems. But then again they are load range E, maybe that makes a difference?
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The biggest problem with running non trailer tires on a trailer
I haven't run non-trailer tires on my trailer. The Carlisle radial tires and the Goodyear Marathon radial tires are both trailer tires.
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How old were the tires? I had a set of the Carlisle radials load range C they were problem free for four years, then I had three blowouts within a couple months. I replaced them with a set of D rated Carlisles and I haven’t had any problems since. Hopefully these will last longer.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 03:32 PM   #15
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I haven't run non-trailer tires on my trailer. The Carlisle radial tires and the Goodyear Marathon radial tires are both trailer tires.
That wasn't directed at you.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 05:03 PM   #16
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We have a new H&H EZ loader at work that has blown all four tires since we got it in April. They were all Carlisle tires. The new ones have lasted 10X longer and don't show the wear the old ones did.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM   #17
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MAXXIS trailer tires are the shit !
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Old November 17th, 2007, 05:35 PM   #18
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i went with the goodyear marathon on mine. i have never had an issue with them. i check the tire pressure before every trip, and a couple times during the trip. i run mine at the max psi.
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350YJ bought a new boat and trailer and all 4 of his carlisles have had blow outs on different trips.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 02:13 PM   #20
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This comes at a good time, just had a blowout this weekend.
So, Goodyear radials/Carlisle bias=good
Goodyear bias/Carlisle radial=bad??
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