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Old May 13th, 2009, 08:05 PM   #1
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Default Raymond Rd/Sand Rd area? Pat?

Got a couple questions, and a sad observation.

First with the bad news....

Apparently someone has pulled up the posts in the ground (closing an old two track), and completely destroyed a swampy area there by turning it into a mudbog. It is right along Sand Road near the dry creek bed.


Now for the good news (or rather possible good news)
ALong Raymond Road, directly across from a somewhat recently cut area (the foresters left the place a fricken mess. I dont know why the state allows them to destroy the land, yet throws a hissy fit whenever we are out driving responsibly) I came across a previously closed forest road ( FR 9182), and saw this:

Is it what it seems? Is the previously closed road now open and legal? (I have also came across a couple other open gate like this, but haven't documented the FR number)




Also, I went down FR 9195 (also off Raymond Road, right at the two trackers adopt-a-road sign) which starts to curve around a lake, but someone seems to have dug a pit to stop motorists, and there are signs all around threatening personal injury if you are found on the property. What is the story of this marked forest road? Is it legal despite the neighboring property owners signs?
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Old May 14th, 2009, 04:49 AM   #2
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Got a couple questions, and a sad observation.

First with the bad news....

Apparently someone has pulled up the posts in the ground (closing an old two track), and completely destroyed a swampy area there by turning it into a mudbog. It is right along Sand Road near the dry creek bed.

That property is actually my high-school buddies. When we were in school it was always so wet there you couldn't even THINK about driving there - even with 38's. Now that the water table is down, it's a constant hassle trying to keep the kids out of there. If you were at the dry wash, you were about 300 feet past my cabin. Stop in and say hi sometime when the gate's open.

Now for the good news (or rather possible good news)
ALong Raymond Road, directly across from a somewhat recently cut area (the foresters left the place a fricken mess. I don't know why the state allows them to destroy the land, yet throws a hissy fit whenever we are out driving responsibly) I came across a previously closed forest road ( FR 9182), and saw this:

Is it what it seems? Is the previously closed road now open and legal? (I have also came across a couple other open gate like this, but haven't documented the FR number)

I HIGHLY doubt it. IF that's the one that heads south, just east of the Two Tracker's sign. It looks like maybe someone ripped the lock off and opened it illegally. There's a swamp back around the corner of the trail that idiots started to tear up. That's what closed the trail in the first place. There used to be a really cool camp site on the top of the hill on the north side of the swamp.




Also, I went down FR 9195 (also off Raymond Road, right at the two trackers adopt-a-road sign) which starts to curve around a lake, but someone seems to have dug a pit to stop motorists, and there are signs all around threatening personal injury if you are found on the property. What is the story of this marked forest road? Is it legal despite the neighboring property owners signs?
2 REALLY old men own that land. They also own the Pine Island Trailer Park (on the front part of the property). I think they're getting ready to kick the bucket and have placed the property into a Conservation Easement with the DNR. While this arrangement allows them to retain the right to allow or not allow motorized use. I think the DNR has sold them the idea that it has to be non--motorized. I know the owners names and where they work, but not their addressees or phone #s. One of these days I need to see about gaining written permission to use the land again. I had verbal permission to use the trail around the lake for a long time. That was the LAST trail that offered access from Hoton-Whitehall Rd to Raymond.
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I just happened to think . . .

Those gates might be open just because they haven't been out to lock them after snowmobile season too.
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I just happened to think . . .

Those gates might be open just because they haven't been out to lock them after snowmobile season too.
They would have locked it as soon as then snow was gone.

We were out there two weeks ago ,all the gates were closed then. We also saw MANY post (trail blocks) pulled up, and it sure didn't look like the DNR pulled them up either.

I couldn't believe the water thats out there this year, water in places I have never seen water before.
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Just back from the "Dry Wash".
Not so dry this year!

I haven't seen it flow like that since the late 80s!

Maybe we'll start seeing salmon in there again too.
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Just so you guys know, the gates are once again closed and locked.
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