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Old June 1st, 2009, 02:02 PM   #21
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Got a 1 3/4" in the mail over the weekend-- 1018, looks pretty good. Tried it out last night and I'm happy with it, dimple has good shape and a tight edge--
Sweet now I will have to find a spot or two to use it one the Bronco
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Old June 1st, 2009, 09:28 PM   #22
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Sweet now I will have to find a spot or two to use it one the Bronco
definitely, I have 1 3/4" and 3/4" so try to control the urge to over-dimple
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 01:45 PM   #23
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Silly newbie qustion. How much pressure does it take to use one of these? You know the dimple dies for dummies explanation.
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 02:16 PM   #24
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20T is safe, 10T is questionable.... i use every bit of 20T when I use them.
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 02:20 PM   #25
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i use a 20ton press with light racing dimple dies. any less of a press and it would suck
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 02:47 PM   #26
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20T is safe, 10T is questionable.... i use every bit of 20T when I use them.
Just what I needed to know. If you only had a 10t available what dia. and thickness do you think it would do on ? material.

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Old June 2nd, 2009, 03:12 PM   #27
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.120 hot rolled is probably do-able up to 2.0" with a 10T the problem is that there is a huge difference between 10 and 11 gauge when it comes to dimpling. 10 is almost too much. people have done .188 with the light racing dies but its hard on them and you have to use a very cautious technique or bad things can happen to the die/hole.

cold rolled, chromoly or in larger diameters than 2.0 will need all the pressure you can get....
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you can(not that u should) dimple 3/16 plate if your careful and have a really good press.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 07:01 AM   #29
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I put my old harbor freight kinker to work as my dimple die station, and use a little bottle jack for the squeeze. It's shady, but that's to be expected with me. Of course I've only used mine for thin stainless.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 05:46 PM   #30
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Looks like they are on CL too. Unless it's coincidence that they are both made in Texas.
1018 CRS set for $150
4140 HT set for $250.

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Old June 5th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #31
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The problem is that it's still 1018 and not tool steel. You can't heat treat & cryo into something it isn't.

But, for the $140 you probably could buy a few sets and use them as-is before buying the real deal.
CRS can be carborized and hardened

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CRS can be carborized and hardened
I take it you didnt read the whole thread, huh?

Whiterhino posted up a pretty detailed explanation on it, there is also a very detailed discussion on pirate.

You can surface harden CRS but nowhere near the depth or hardness of a 4140, for the few extra bucks that it is they are worth getting the alloy steel material and having a tool you dont have to worry about wearing out in a few years.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 09:31 AM   #33
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I DID miss the reference to carborizing in WhiteRhino's post. Sorry 'bout that. I do not spend time at Pirate.
I did not write a paragraph on the benefits or detractions of carborizing, simply a fact that it could be accomplished.
I'll crawl back under my rock now.
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