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Old May 14th, 2009, 12:12 PM   #1
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Well.....after the value of all my "black" rifles went up in the winter, I sold them and made a (very) nice profit. But that has now left me with only a .22lr in the rifle section of my cabinet.


SO...Im looking for a new high-power varminter/ tack driver. My budget is kind of tight now after blowing some cash on my black powder gear, and this neat little Handi-Rifle caught my eye at the gun shop.





Anyone ever use/ own one? Any good?

Its a single shot, break-barrel (like a shotgun), but seems to be well made, and is offering the options Im looking for. Im really looking for a high power, medium caliber, non-semi auto, heavy barrel rifle. And for $245, this little handi seems like a bargain.


Its offered in a multitude of calibers, but Im leaning more towards the .243 win. Its highly unlikely it will be used for any real hunting (maybe the occasional burrowing rodent....no deer), mainly 100-300yd paper punching. So rapid fire/ reloading isnt an issue this time around.

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Old May 16th, 2009, 10:27 AM   #2
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I've got one in .17 HMR. Nice simple reliable well made gun. I put a Harris Bipod and a Burris scope on mine.
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I have one (sb2 "ultra" in .223 rem) love it! For 100-300 yards you can shoot a .223 cheaper than the larger calibers!
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I have one (sb2 "ultra" in .223 rem) love it! For 100-300 yards you can shoot a .223 cheaper than the larger calibers!
Yeah, I was thinking that. But I already owned a .223 and wanted something a bit different. The .243 seems to be the cheapest among the heavier loads. I can get a box of junk ammo for ~$12 compared to ~$20-25 a box for the .270 or 7mm. And last time I bought .223 it was hovering right around $10/box. So, not that bad.



My local dealer quoted me $245, and a week to get it. I stop in my local Cabelas on my way home from work, and they have one in stock for $219.....in the exact caliber, barrel, and finish I wanted.






Mmmmm.....high power....




Now THATS a heavy barrel.





Fantastic wood, fantastic finish, and excellent machining. The action is ridiculous. Maybe a ~3-4 pound pull with almost no sweep. You touch the trigger, and with a nice crisp click it releases. Cant wait to get it to the range.


.....now I need a decent scope for it.

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Went out and shot it today. Turned out to be a WONDERFUL day at the range. To start off, I stapled my own damn finger while trying to hang my target (garage door opener type target system, with a cardboard backer. I stapled right through it to my finger). And then soon after that, I caught a ricochet from someone else TO THE FACE. Caught me square in the cheek bone. Didnt draw blood though.



Anyway, the rifle performed great. The thing sure has a bit of a kick, even with the heavy barrel. Id compare it to my 12ga with a light load in it. I dont have a scope for it yet, so I just put 20 rounds through it at 20 yards. I wasnt concerned with groupings today, I was just wanting to see how it felt. I can see it being a fantastic bench rifle. The trigger pull is very satisfying and light, recoil is a bit stout, but very controllable, and reloading while on a bag isnt hard....but it a bit awkward when trying to maintain your sight picture.
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I have the same gun only with the beautiful laminated stock. I put a 4x12x50 scope on it and shoot consistent 2" groups at 150 yards. you will love it. You may find it takes a couple boxes of shells to really get the barrel polished for accuracy.
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also, for the best info on these rifles visit http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php
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Thanks.



Ive since scoped it (9-16x40), added a Decelerator pad, and put well over 100 rounds through it. Tack driver at 100yds.


Im going to be sending the receiver off to H&R sometime soon and have them make me a .17 HMR and .500 S&W barrel for it. Fantastic rifle. My only complaint is that the screw under the foregrip gets rather hot after multiple shots, and makes it uncomfortable to shoot unless set on a bag.
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my wife has one just like your first pic but without the thumb hole. 308 cal . It has been a good deer rifle for her
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shot my first deer with one in .270. Just got the 45-70gov't for it. I like the .270 better myself.
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Ive since scoped it (9-16x40), added a Decelerator pad, and put well over 100 rounds through it. Tack driver at 100yds.


Im going to be sending the receiver off to H&R sometime soon and have them make me a .17 HMR and .500 S&W barrel for it. Fantastic rifle. My only complaint is that the screw under the foregrip gets rather hot after multiple shots, and makes it uncomfortable to shoot unless set on a bag.
ummm for your best accuracy always let your barrel cool between shots, if you cant hold your hand on the barrel its to hot.
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ummm for your best accuracy always let your barrel cool between shots, if you cant hold your hand on the barrel its to hot.
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your a dumbfuck



god forbid i try to help anyone buy giving them one of the simple fundamentals of accurate shooting. any hunting shot will most likely be taken from a cold bore.

as you shoot the barrel heats up, as it heats up it moves, this movement can and will pull your shots off target. thinner "featherweight" barrels are much more susceptible to this as the heat up faster.

also continued shooting from a screaming hot barrrel will burn out your barrel. modern gunpowder burns at around 6000 degrees the more you shoot from a hot barrel the more it will erode the throat of the chamber. the more the thoat is eroded the farthe the bullet itself has to jump from the chamber to the rifleings in the the throat of the barrel. the farther it has to jump the more it affect accuracy.

but of coarse i might be wrong and so might thousands of other shooters and gunsmiths
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god forbid i try to help anyone buy giving them one of the simple fundamentals of accurate shooting. any hunting shot will most likely be taken from a cold bore.

as you shoot the barrel heats up, as it heats up it moves, this movement can and will pull your shots off target. thinner "featherweight" barrels are much more susceptible to this as the heat up faster.

also continued shooting from a screaming hot barrrel will burn out your barrel. modern gunpowder burns at around 6000 degrees the more you shoot from a hot barrel the more it will erode the throat of the chamber. the more the thoat is eroded the farthe the bullet itself has to jump from the chamber to the rifleings in the the throat of the barrel. the farther it has to jump the more it affect accuracy.

but of coarse i might be wrong and so might thousands of other shooters and gunsmiths

All true, but, I am not rapid firing this rifle. I take ~60 seconds between shots to unload, reload, reset, reacquire, and settle myself. I usually put 10 rounds through it using this method before letting it cool for ~20 minutes (as well as to give my shoulder a break). The most Ive put through it is 20 rounds in a day, all shot in a 45 minute time frame. The thing just gets hot fast and stays hot for a long time.


It is a bull barrel too. I wanted a bull just for this reason.


With all that being said, the only deviance I get near the end of my session is from myself and not the gun. I need to become more disciplined. By the end of the session I start to anticipate the shot and flinch. Usually this throws me off by 1-2 MOA outside the rifles ability at 100 yards. Another reason why I take a break from it after 10 rounds, and dont shoot more than 20 in a day. I have become better, but Im still not up to my liking. On a good day I can have every shot land within the 10 range at 100 yds. Most of the time I have a 1" grouping with a handful of stragglers inside of 3".
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good luck on the flinch once you get it, its almost impossible to get rid of....i developed mine shooing a 12gauge with 3 1/2 inch magnum turkey loads....i still flinch and pull shots once in a while even 3 yrs later...... stupid flinch aaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhh
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good luck on the flinch once you get it, its almost impossible to get rid of....i developed mine shooing a 12gauge with 3 1/2 inch magnum turkey loads....i still flinch and pull shots once in a while even 3 yrs later...... stupid flinch aaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhh
I can shoot light calibers just fine. Im an excellent shot with my .22 and .223, even in rapid fire. But once my shoulder starts to get a little sore, the flinch begins to make a re-appearance. Usually after 10 rounds with the H&R.


I originally wanted a magnum, either a 7mm or a .300. Im glad I got this .243 first, otherwise Id probably be scared to death of any high-power, lol.
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if you remove the but plate on the rifle you can put a piece of steel rod inside the hole in the butstock. this will add weight and help reduce the recoil of the rifle.
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if you remove the but plate on the rifle you can put a piece of steel rod inside the hole in the butstock. this will add weight and help reduce the recoil of the rifle.
Orly?



I never thought of that. I put a "Decelerator" on it, and that REALLY helped. I might try the rod too.
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depending on the weight of the rod it can make a huge difference in felf recoil. the key is that the rod has to be held in place otherwise the gun moves and the rod just bounces. depending on the length of the rod you use you can fill the empty space with a wooden dowel. dont glue it in or anything like that the hole is for access to the bolt that holds the stock on.
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lol @ nogunsfender.

Cold bore shots are most likely only seen when you are hunting. When I shoot in a hunting rifle I take 1 shot a day until my gun is on, thus sighting it in for the cold bore shot. I shoot a few rounds through my rifle at the range before I start even trying groups. My 20" ar can put a 30 round magazine in a 4" group at 200 yards with oil smoking off the barrel at the end. Most "assault type" rifles have a chrome lined barrel to prevent barrel wear from rapid firing. As for wearing out the barrel, good luck doing that with a single shot 500 mag.

FFD, if you really want to knock down the recoil get a mercury filled buffer tube. Also, to help your flinch use breathing methods to calm yourself and level your heartbeat before firing.

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