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Old April 20th, 2009, 11:28 AM   #1
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im not sure if it really is my flexplate. its worn, but its not in need of a replacement, no teeth missing, and it has plenty of gear life left .
what would cause the starter to just spin?
it worked off and on, then just started spinning without engaging?
is that a neutral safety switch? or something else?
any advice is good for me
the starter is brand new. (and it does the same thing as my old one)

possible causes ive heard mentioned to me:
1. wiring is bad, causing it to activate sometimes and not other time
2. animal from the muppets has taken the "go" out of my truck
3. something in the column isnt doing what it should (see my post a long time ago about jiggling the shifter to start)
4. Bad solenoid
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Old April 20th, 2009, 11:42 AM   #2
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bad starter solenoid would do it i donno if you have one on the firewall or not. but my starter did this it would just sit and spin wouldnt shoot out got a new one and its fixed. have it tested at autozone or somewere frist before you get a new one.

also it might not be close enogh to the fly wheel. we put a brand new starter on my buddys trans am and we didnt have it close enogh to the fly wheel it just sat there an spun.

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bad starter solenoid would do it i donno if you have one on the firewall or not. but my starter did this it would just sit and spin wouldnt shoot out got a new one and its fixed. have it tested at autozone or somewere frist before you get a new one.

also it might not be close enogh to the fly wheel. we put a brand new starter on my buddys trans am and we didnt have it close enogh to the fly wheel it just sat there an spun.

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Old April 20th, 2009, 01:09 PM   #4
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no. a starter solenoid would cause the starter to not do anything. if it is spinning then the starter has an issue. the solenoids only job is to apply power to the starter.
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X's 2 sorry for the bad info. take your starter up to autozone get it tested i bet thats the prob.
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2 starters, one is brand new..both doing the same thing?
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my guess is something is not aligned properly. Have you hade the trans out for any reason? Maybe the starter(s) are not fully seated when tight.

You could test the starter on the ground and see if the pinion gear slides out when it spins as a rough check.
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yeah hook up a battery charger to it to see if it comes out and spins if it does then your alignment on the starter to flywheel is not right. if it came with shims make sure you used them.
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ive had issues with it starting before..like it wouldnt even turn over unless i pulled/pushed/moved the shifter around a little bit.. i dont know how to describe the symptoms any better..i dont think my starter has any shims on it, and it looks just like the old one (which has the same issue, making me believe its not the starter itself but a solenoid) but that would not explain the grinding
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no. a starter solenoid would cause the starter to not do anything. if it is spinning then the starter has an issue. the solenoids only job is to apply power to the starter.
Not true. The starter-mounted solenoid is responsible for passing power to the starter motor AND sliding the bendix gear out to engage the flywheel.
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Old April 21st, 2009, 11:30 AM   #11
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no. a starter solenoid would cause the starter to not do anything. if it is spinning then the starter has an issue. the solenoids only job is to apply power to the starter.
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Not true. The starter-mounted solenoid is responsible for passing power to the starter motor AND sliding the bendix gear out to engage the flywheel.
as well, i have replaced more then enough fender mounted solenoids that would stay engaged to the starter and continue to crank after shutting the key down or the engine runs.

My F250 has two solenoids, one fender and one on the starter.

I know on the older explorers (91-94) thier is a slight difference between the autos and the manuals. I think if you put an auto starter in a manual then the gear will stay engaged after the engine fires. Doubt its what you have going on but?????

Do you have the shim that goes between the block and the transmission? That is what ford used as a shim.
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yes, that covers the entire back side of the block...(well atleast on 91-94's assuming yours has one as well).
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yup it does and its in place my guess is it could be a combo of the solenoid, and bushings around the shifter
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[QUOTE=CheapThrillB2;1645454]as well, i have replaced more then enough fender mounted solenoids that would stay engaged to the starter and continue to crank after shutting the key down or the engine runs.

in his post he said nothing about it staying engaged. or about it running when the key was off. he said it was spinning, but not throwing out to hit the flexplate. so the solenoid is doing its job by applying power where its needed.
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the weird thing is: when i tried to start it immediately after installing the new starter it worked better than great for like 5 starts..then it did what i said above..
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as much as i dont want to..i might have to take this one into the shop
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as well the teeth on the starter were chewed up. And the DTR (Nuetral safety) intermitently wasn't sending the signal to even try and crank it.

And the shift cable was bad, wasn't allowing it to shift into any forward gears.
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