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Old January 6th, 2016, 02:01 PM   #1
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In light of Obama's latest attempts to once again tie the hands of law abiding gun owners, using executive orders so supposedly "curb gun violence", is there any real doubt about what is intent is for all of us? Consider what he has done in the last few years:

* Demonizing police, creating an atmosphere where they are afraid to do their jobs out of fear of disciplinary actions and lawsuits, while taking away resources and tools to protect themselves while trying to protect the public.

* Allowing tens of thousands of Middle Eastern "refugees" to enter this country unvetted, and then virtually disappear onto the streets of America, many of which have known terrorist intentions toward inflicing damage to America and it's citizens (ala the Tsarnaev brothers and Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik)

* Continuing to not only keep our southern border a porous and ineffective sieve of illegal immigration, but allowing major cities to be "sanctuary cities" for illegals with known criminal backgrounds to gangs and drug cartels, many of whom are repeat offenders, left to commit heinous acts upon the citizens of this country ( ala the Kate Steinle murder)

* Doing absolutely nothing to stop the huge amounts of crime occuring daily in this country's major cities (think Chicago, 468 murders, 2900 shooting in 2015), and actually encouraging gangs to commit violence against citizens and businesses (Baltimore, Ferguson).

People from his own cabinet admit that his "common sense" gun proposals will do nothing to stop things like San Bernardino, which was his tipping point toward his little sideshow the other day. Between his obvious contempt for law abiding gun owners and his attempts to make it as hard as possible for us to arm ourselves to defend ourselves and our families, and the facts given above, is there any doubt about what his goal is for all of us?
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Old January 6th, 2016, 02:22 PM   #2
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Treason. Put on the handcuffs and lead his sorry ass to jail.

It shows from his actions that he has no reguard for the safety of the American people. It is about his agenda and more control that he can impose on the American people. Which makes it that much easier for the next democratic president to assume the same socialist path he has created. There is no difference between a socialist and a democrat.
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In light of Obama's latest attempts to once again tie the hands of law abiding gun owners, using executive orders so supposedly "curb gun violence", is there any real doubt about what is intent is for all of us? Consider what he has done in the last few years:

* Demonizing police, and helping to creat an atmosphere where they are afraid to do their jobs out of fear of un-founded, uneducated public scrutiny and administrative political reprisal, while not providing the necessary resources to adequately protect themselves and the public

* Allowing tens of thousands of Middle Eastern "refugees" to enter this country unvetted, and then virtually disappear onto the streets of America, (ala the Tsarnaev brothers and Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik)

* Continuing to not only keep our southern border an ineffective sieve of illegal immigration, but also allowing major cities to be "sanctuary cities" for illegal aliens ( ala the Kate Steinle murder)

*Giving national speeches that would correlate with condoning gangs and protesters committing violence against citizens and businesses (Baltimore, Ferguson).

People from his own cabinet admit that his "common sense" gun proposals will do nothing to stop things like San Bernardino, which was his tipping point toward his little sideshow the other day. Between his obvious contempt for law abiding gun owners and his attempts to make it as hard as possible for us to arm ourselves to defend ourselves and our families, and the facts given above, is there any doubt about what his goal is for all of us?
I like what you have, but I would change it to disregard the unecessary stuff. Just my .02













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Talk to any lifelong liberal, and they will tell you he is doing what is best for the country.

Even presented with evidence to the contrary, they will still stand firm behind his policies.
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I like what you have, but I would change it to disregard the unecessary stuff. Just my .02
It's all relevent. Every last bit of it. Shredding the constitution is not American.
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What is unnecessary?
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What is unnecessary?
I changed it in my quote of your post.

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* Allowing tens of thousands of Middle Eastern "refugees" to enter this country unvetted, and then virtually disappear onto the streets of America, many of which have known terrorist intentions toward inflicing damage to America and it's citizens (ala the Tsarnaev brothers and Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik)

* Doing absolutely nothing to stop the huge amounts of crime occuring daily in this country's major cities (think Chicago, 468 murders, 2900 shooting in 2015), and actually encouraging gangs to commit violence against citizens and businesses (Baltimore, Ferguson).
I look at it from a viewpoint of someone looking for anything to discredit what you're saying.

What you said about the middle eastern refugees; how easy would it be for one the presidents supporters to say "How do you know they have known terrorists intentions....you can't judge all of them because 1 has a lifestyle problem...blah blah...you can't prove they have bad intentiosn to harm the US....". They will come up with an excuse like that, because they already do. They latch onto one aspect that may be inaccurate or not really prove-able then completely disregard the entire thing and call the person saying it a hate mongerer or the like.

Same goes for the statement about crime. It's all to easy for someone to latch onto the part about encouraging gangs to commit crimes. They'll say "You can't prove that, he has never once done that....blah blah blah" and again, completely disregard the entire statement and validity of the claim.

It's time people started coming together with a coherent and straight-forward list of grievances. Something that is solid and irrefutable. Saying things like ".......actually encouraging gangs to commit violence against citizens and businesses" is not something that is concrete. It's speculation and correlation. I think if we, as people who have a real problem with how things are being run, need to set standards for what the problems are. Something that everyone can get behind and support.
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