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Old April 25th, 2009, 07:13 PM   #1
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Default Motorcycle Accident - I-75 south near Sashabaw

We were coming home from St. Helens and got caught up in the multi-mile back up on South 75.

Finally got up to the accident scene. State troopers were still investigating. Tow trucks were standing by.

Saw debris. Was not sure at first what it was. Looked like a mangled front bumper. About the same time I saw the concave indentation in the car up ahead (grand am maybe, or that size car) I also saw the remains of the front down tubes and brake rotor of what I guess was a motorcycle. The tire was shredded and separated from the hub.

Considering the investigation and the indent in the rear end of the car, and the total devastation of the bike, I fear the rider may have died.

When we went through the weather was lousy. Thunderstorms rolling through the area. Sudden heavy rain. Hail. Wind. Don't know if weather played a part or not. Maybe the car suddenly slowed down. Maybe the rider was going to fast for conditions. The sudden down pours reduced visibilty to nothing in a split second at times.


Anyway, no pics, not that I would post them anyways.

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Old April 25th, 2009, 07:28 PM   #2
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Yikes! We didn't see it because we took an alternate route home. Hope it isn't that bad though.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 07:49 PM   #3
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I heard the rider died
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Bodybag was witnessed.
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Too sad, Two wheelers take it easy!
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Old April 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #6
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Did you happen to notice if it was a cruiser or crotch rocket? And what color possibly? My ex lives that way and she rides? I don't know her number anymore
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From what little was recognizable, I would guess a crotch rocket. But, there was not much that was really recognizable.

Sad to hear it, if he died.
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heya,

I was driving up to my parents house in Clarkston when I got stuck in this traffic, too.
I unfortunately got stuck in the outer lane, right next to the scene...

It looks like there was a fatality, and the car was up ahead quite a ways with the entire trunk just smashed in...talking with my bro, we think that the rider just plowed into the back, couldn't stop - probably was going at a pretty quick clip, when the driver changed lanes...didn't have time to stop and ...the end.

There was a pretty good size group of riders - probably at least 8-12 - all crotch rockets. All men - so Adamzr, I don't think your ex was part of the group. They were on the south-bound side of the expressway...

I agree with the other posters - not much of anything at all was recognizable except for the shape of a body beneath a tarp in the grass median.
It's something I won't ever unsee......

If any of you guys ride bikes, too....just be careful.
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i also passed a motorcycle accident on woodward in pontiac friday night that had the whole road blocked off right by the loop
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that's not good news
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So here's what happened.
The guy was going 160mph. He went to switch lanes and rear-ended the car, and somewhere in the middle of rear-ending the car and skidding he hit the gaurd rail. He bounced off and skidded approx. 160 yards. He died instantly...
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So here's what happened.
The guy was going 160mph. He went to switch lanes and rear-ended the car, and somewhere in the middle of rear-ending the car and skidding he hit the gaurd rail. He bounced off and skidded approx. 160 yards. He died instantly...
what a dumbass. it sucks for his loved ones but none the less good for him.
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So here's what happened.
The guy was going 160mph. He went to switch lanes and rear-ended the car, and somewhere in the middle of rear-ending the car and skidding he hit the gaurd rail. He bounced off and skidded approx. 160 yards. He died instantly...
Ouch. He won't be doing that again.
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That speed sounds about right considering the devastation I saw.

When will these guys learn?

I mean, I like speed too. I like to see how fast a car can go, and have mildly exceeded the speed limit from time to time.
But I have always been sure to do this when the roads are clear and dry. Never around traffic. Guess I have too much regard for my own life as well as the lives of others.

As good as I think I am behind the wheel, there is nothing I can do about the driving habits of others.
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That speed sounds about right considering the devastation I saw.

When will these guys learn?

I mean, I like speed too. I like to see how fast a car can go, and have mildly exceeded the speed limit from time to time.
But I have always been sure to do this when the roads are clear and dry. Never around traffic. Guess I have too much regard for my own life as well as the lives of others.

As good as I think I am behind the wheel, there is nothing I can do about the driving habits of others.
You fourwheeled type are just as bad for the riders. Talking on your cell, drinking whatever, snacking on your bigmac and for the three women on here doing your makeup, the point is check your blind spots. Last summer I was damn near pushed into a curb twice in less than 20 feet because there was a stalled car at the light on the inside lane and my lane was "clear," minus me doing 20 in a 45.
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I wanted to check some kid off the road a couple weeks ago. He was doing 20 in a 40 . . . . . . . . . while texting on his steering wheel.
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So here's what happened.
The guy was going 160mph. He went to switch lanes and rear-ended the car, and somewhere in the middle of rear-ending the car and skidding he hit the gaurd rail. He bounced off and skidded approx. 160 yards. He died instantly...
You have me curious, were you an on-scene accident reconstructionist? riding along side with him? or clocking him via radar/laser/vascar?

If you know he was going 160, and none of the above apply can you cite the year, make and whether or not the bike was stock?

I don't actually anticipate a reply given your newness to the forum, but on-web and/or heresay speed estimations are typically as accurate as non-cited statistics which are made up 93.8746% of the time
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Old April 27th, 2009, 04:09 PM   #18
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You fourwheeled type are just as bad for the riders. Talking on your cell, drinking whatever, snacking on your bigmac and for the three women on here doing your makeup, the point is check your blind spots. Last summer I was damn near pushed into a curb twice in less than 20 feet because there was a stalled car at the light on the inside lane and my lane was "clear," minus me doing 20 in a 45.


You are right, there are plenty of people that do not pay attention to what is going on around them. I am proud to say I am not one of them.

But, I drive I-696 and I-75 in Oakland county on a daily basis. And for as many crotch rocket riders there are that keep it safe and sane, there are just as many that keep it stupid and death defying.

We see them zipping by us in heavy traffic all the time. We are doing 70 mph and they pass us like we are standing still, weaving in and out of rtraffic.

Then you have the trick riders. The wheelies, standing on the seats, sudden stops and starts. Yes, idiots slamming on the brakes to lift the rear wheel, all the while there is other traffic all around them. I have come close to being involved in accidents because of the antics of these idiots.

Royal Oak is a gathering place for motorcycle enthusiasts during the warm months. We get all kinds of riders in this area. And we get plenty of accidents as well. More than enough are the idiot crotch rocket riders that think they are invincible and the highways are thier playgrounds.

In fact, while sitting in the traffic jam just approaching the scene of the accident Saturday, there was a guy on a crotch rocket that came at quite a fast speed up the left side shoulder to pass traffic. Cars did this as well to get off at Sashabaw, and they are stupid too. But I would think caution would be a very important attribute in a riders mindset.

Before anybody gets the wrong idea, I respect motorcyclists on the road. I know a lot of people who ride. I just don't like idiots on the road, regardless of how many wheels they have.
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Old April 28th, 2009, 12:12 AM   #19
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here is the deal i am 34 about 10 years ago i wanted a bike and bought a rocket( i am a experanced rider) i love rideing that bike but i however sold it for one main reason......it was just too damn much fun to be going in excess of 100 mph shifting outa 2nd gear now i know i was in the wrong doing this but the bikes give you a false sense because of how well they handle you feel that you can go alot faster than you should because of how well they stop turn and accelerate .....
its like buying a vett or lambo...the vehicles are designed for raceing ......can you drive them safely and normaly ...yes but for most people that just isnt enough and they have to push it to see how fast it will go and what it can do....it is the same with all of us and our jeeps...you can have fun putting down a 2 track at 5 mph or buzzing the dunes but then we put 40 inch tires and 8 or 10 inches of lift and have to find the deepest mud hole or the steapest hill to climb and do things that our rigs just wernt ment to do....its all the same thing
now i dont look down on people verry often specially when i have done it too but nowhere on any public road should you ever be going in excess of 100 mph doing land changes in traffic but people do it every day
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lamborghini's are not designed for racing. they in fact have a pretty poor track record compared to the likes of Ferrari, Porche, Audi and BMW in the various classes of racing.

historically, Lamborghini's also had the poorest of ergonomics and reliability. the countach was nearly undriveable according to many automotive journalists.

racing is about control and consistency.

folks that drive or ride irresponsibly on public roads display that they don't have any control - don't blame it on vehicles that have capabilities that far exceed that of the person at the helm.

ultimately it is the operator's error that is at fault. If you allow the argument that the temptation was too great, then you damn us all to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator - e.g. we'll all be driving golf carts with 25 mph governors on them, full cages, 47 air bags, with anti-lock tank treads on them for the ultimate in contactpatch stopping power.
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