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Old January 24th, 2009, 04:01 PM   #1
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Default Dirt bike sizing...

I am thinking about getting rid of the CBR 600 and getting a couple of dirt bikes for the g/f and myself. I kinda want to make it a surprise to her in the spring for our anniversary.

What would be a good size for a girl that is 125lbs and 5'5? I was thinking about an 80cc, but then I thought about Honda's XR 100R and the Yamaha TTRs.

Any suggestions?

I am almost tempted to take her to the dealership with me, making her think that I am shopping for a new bike for me. Then have her sit on a few and maybe test ride a couple.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 04:10 PM   #2
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the Xr100 or ttr are excellant size for her. The xr100 she should be able to touch the ground and if she enjoys it is easily upgradable, such as suspension. as far as motor they are not fast or scary power, perfect for a beginner. They do have plenty of power if needed. At 240 lbs my dad rides one hunting in the mountains of Colorado at 9000' elevation and that little thing just plugs along fine!
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Depends on your girl.

My wife is 5'3" and we started her out on a CRF150F - that thing is indestructible, but also weighs as much as a full sized bike.
Next, we bought her a KX100 and that lets her rip around and it weighs about 70 lb lees than the 150, plus the suspension is 10x better than the 150.

She's ended up on a CRF250X that I have lowered and modified for her. She flat-out hauls the mail on that bike.

What ever bike you look at, try to buy at the higher end of what you think she can handle. My wife could flat-foot a TTR125 and would
be been unhappy with it in a couple of months. They aren't too powerful and are very small. Fun to goof off on, but I think she would outgrow it fast.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 08:58 AM   #4
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Riding a trailbike in Michigan will make you love the state again. I don't know when you're looking, but I can also ask my wife if your girl can try one of her small bikes.





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i would also consider the kawasaki klx 140, 4 stroke, electric start, and i have 2 in stock that i would sell at my cost just to move them, and if your interested i would trade in your cbr too.. im located in howell on grand river.
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Thanks Scooter! Your examples make this easier. I was seriously thinking a TTR 125 would fit her perfectly, maybe I am mistaken. Then of course, the Honda XR 100 would be too small also.

Also, I am mainly looking at used bikes. I hate to sound like an ass, but I am not going to spend a whole lot of money on a brand new bike that she will most likely mess up within a couple months.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 08:52 PM   #7
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The main 4 manufactures all make great bikes. I have had a couple of KX500s But seem to like Yamaha the best. I now ride a 03 WR450F and also have a TTR125LE for my daughter. I would start with a air cooled bike for a beginner. No radiators to crush if you fall over or lay it down. I started my daughter on an early water cooled YZ80 and was doing rad work allot as she was learning and having to stop her allot because she couldn't ride fast enough to keep it cool. Most of the bigger cc bikes can be lowered for smaller riders. The TTR size and style bikes are great around the farm learner type bikes but become to small and under powered very quickly when you really start to get into ridding. A TTR250 would be a good starter bike. I've seen these used pretty cheap The older bigger XRs, The KLXs, DRZs. I like the ones that already have lights. These can be made street legal easily and economically, $100.00 or less. No need to buy high dollar Dual purpose kits. If you want to spend a little more coin the Yam WR250 or Honda CRFX250 are great bikes. Check these guys out they show a few used ones and some non current new bikes. www.peacockltd.com I bought my WR from them. Trail ridding is a wonderful thing
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Old January 27th, 2009, 06:55 AM   #8
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Thanks Scooter! Your examples make this easier. I was seriously thinking a TTR 125 would fit her perfectly, maybe I am mistaken. Then of course, the Honda XR 100 would be too small also.

Also, I am mainly looking at used bikes. I hate to sound like an ass, but I am not going to spend a whole lot of money on a brand new bike that she will most likely mess up within a couple months.
The only thing bad about the TTR125L I can think of is the size. My wife has short legs (which is usually the opposite of most women) and she could stand flat-footed on the TTR. In her mind, that is a great confidence builder, however, it will limit what she can do after she gets a few weeks in the saddle. You will notice it too because (since you'll always ride together) because she'll have a hard time keeping a good pace.

I might as well continue with my wife/bike experience:

Jasper is entirely correct about an air cooled bike and dropping My wife has been thrown off of all of her bikes numerous times - some real doozys in Moab on her 150. And that 150 has a "dry weight" of 216 lb. which is close to 235lb. topped of with fuel and oil. i.e. when the bike falls on her (and it will) she'll get pinned - at least my wife did. The 150 is low and stable and will motor through just about anything, but is weighs nearly as much as my KTM 300!

The following year we moved on to a KX100 - it keeps approximately the same size, but adds much much better suspension and a dry weight just under 160 lb. It is a bit more difficult to launch, but the light weight and 75% more suspension travel let her throw the bike around and go faster through whoops (which Michigan has plenty). The KX has more bottom-end than the 85's out there with no weight penalty (same bike, different bore on the engine), and I also had to add a USFS approved spark arrestor and a larger fuel tank - the original is around 0.8 gallons.

One of the most important things you can do for your wife when you get her a bike is to ditch the OEM tires and buy "soft/intermediate/sand" tires for her. A front tire that is good in sand is a must for Michigan and her happiness. Michelin's Starcross series works well (I can't remember the specific tire right now). The stock tires on the 100 and 150 both sucked in the sand - this will translate into the front end washing out in corners (resulting in a fall) and horrible straight-line stability in deep sand (which will tire her out fighting the bike).

One last thing, next to helmets, boots are the most important gear for trailriding. You'll be amazed hom many stumps will try to wrap your foot around the bottom of the peg.
Also, don't bother with the goofy roost protectors you see some of the people wearing out there. they don't protect much in a crash, they just do a real good job of keeping big rocks from motorcycle roost from hurting you. Also, it makes people look like transformers, which might be cool at Halloween when you're eight.(j/k ) It's just that I always ride with my wife and we don't roost each other (unless there's a bit of mud ) Start out wearing long sleeves and gloves - if you guys end up liking it like we do, I'd highly suggest a "661 Pressure Suit". You get chest, spine, shoulder, elbow and forearm protection. From my woods experience, I've used the elbow and forearm protection much more than I'd like to admit. (actually, it's the same gear my wife is wearing in the pictures)

Good luck to you and I hope you guise like it as much as we do!

BTW, if you're looking for a good bike for yourself, Chadcooper's street-legal WR is a steal. Street-legal dirtbikes are awesome because you can ride them EVERYWHERE LEGALLY. (well, orv trails, MCCCT trail, roads)
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Old January 27th, 2009, 06:56 AM   #9
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The main 4 manufactures all make great bikes. I have had a couple of KX500s But seem to like Yamaha the best. I now ride a 03 WR450F and also have a TTR125LE for my daughter. I would start with a air cooled bike for a beginner. No radiators to crush if you fall over or lay it down. I started my daughter on an early water cooled YZ80 and was doing rad work allot as she was learning and having to stop her allot because she couldn't ride fast enough to keep it cool. Most of the bigger cc bikes can be lowered for smaller riders. The TTR size and style bikes are great around the farm learner type bikes but become to small and under powered very quickly when you really start to get into ridding. A TTR250 would be a good starter bike. I've seen these used pretty cheap The older bigger XRs, The KLXs, DRZs. I like the ones that already have lights. These can be made street legal easily and economically, $100.00 or less. No need to buy high dollar Dual purpose kits. If you want to spend a little more coin the Yam WR250 or Honda CRFX250 are great bikes. Check these guys out they show a few used ones and some non current new bikes. www.peacockltd.com I bought my WR from them. Trail ridding is a wonderful thing
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Old January 27th, 2009, 07:42 PM   #10
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Is that a KTM 300 I see?? Man, I'm jealous...off topic I know, but the 09' 300 sounds like it'll kick even more ass.....

Back to the topic at hand, I put in another vote for the TTR-(L/E/whatever you want)....I just went through this with my GF, and of all the bikes we considered (all mentioned above), these were a) the cheapest on the "used" market, b) fit her good, and c) had an electric start - something that was a must for my G/F.

The only other thing I may add, is that with a two-stroke bike you've gotta "keep it on the pipe." I guess this may be different on little pingers, but I know the ones I've had (all modified, so IDK about stock), they really really really didn't care for being lugged around - which is something a beginner will probably tend to do quite a bit....I think the little 50's have an auto clutch, which makes it alright (for children that fit them - obviously too small in your case)....but something with a manual clutch will probably have a hard time with this
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Old January 27th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #11
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since i c scooter threw my name in the mix for have a sweet ass bike for a great deal for sale i should probably give you the link
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buy her a crf250x youll both be happy you did
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Old January 28th, 2009, 10:23 AM   #13
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buy her a crf250x youll both be happy you did
x2, sorta.

MY wife ended up with a new 06 X (that shat the intake valves at 13 hrs), and (since I rebuilt it as honda should have initially built it) it absolutely rocks. She rides that thing everywhere.

Also, Chris1044 - that's a 04 300 EXC that has been ported for even more low end. I can't say enough good about the 300 from KTM.
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Find an older XR100, they are about as reliable and unintimidating as you can get, and can be found all over for a couple hundred bucks. She might outgrow it fairly quick, but that's a good thing, and you shouldn't have any trouble turning around and selling it off with no/little loss to buy a nicer, bigger bike.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 11:12 PM   #15
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One thing to remember, its not about getting her the coolest bike, try to get her something she can learn on and be confident /comfortable with, you can always go bigger later on, but if you scare her to start with you won't be riding much!!!
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Please do yourself a favor and avoid the TTR. My aunt had a TTR. I rode the bike and thought it would be a good bike for my girlfriend to learn on. Lets just say it did not end well. (not that it was the bikes fault)

Not enough power for the Michigan sand and the bike is very heavy. The suspension does not give a rider much room to grow and improve.

I know a few people who have been very happy with the KX100
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a cr230f is also an option.
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Please do yourself a favor and avoid the TTR. My aunt had a TTR. I rode the bike and thought it would be a good bike for my girlfriend to learn on. Lets just say it did not end well. (not that it was the bikes fault)

Not enough power for the Michigan sand and the bike is very heavy. The suspension does not give a rider much room to grow and improve.

I know a few people who have been very happy with the KX100


X2, brother started out on a TTR 225 man that thing was like riding a cow too heavy and suspension was shat, i started off on a XR 200 at 13 or 14 and quickly out grew it but then again this is for your wife so id say either the XR100 or CRF150 or CRF230
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