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Old March 30th, 2009, 05:07 PM   #1
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I know this has been discussed before but I'm curious to as weather or not the rules have changed. So what are the are restrictions and rules for kids to drive at silver lake??? Done some research on my own but it seams as though know body can agree with each other
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Old March 30th, 2009, 05:12 PM   #2
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When I was 12 I had to take a safty course to ride my quad out there and i used to get stopped a lot to show them my certificate. As far as trucks, they told me I was able to drive when I had my learners permit as long as there was someone 21 and older with me
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so im 14 and have that same certificate can i drive a jeep with my dad
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Old March 30th, 2009, 07:21 PM   #4
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I know growing up I had the certificate from the saftey course and I was able to ride my dirt bike in ORV areas. As far as driving a truck or jeep goes I would not think that is allowed, however I am not sure.
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Old March 30th, 2009, 07:31 PM   #5
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so im 14 and have that same certificate can i drive a jeep with my dad
Do you have your level 1 learners permit (have you taken segment 1 drivers education)? The orv safety certificate is for riding dirtbikes, quads, etc. I would think that you would need your driving permit, because you are driving a vehicle.
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Old March 31st, 2009, 11:54 AM   #6
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ok thanks
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i did some more research and found this on the DNR website

Operation of Other ORVs

Children under 16 may operate other ORVs (trail bikes, for example) only when both of the following conditions are met.

* Operator is under visual supervision of an adult and …
* Operator possesses a valid ORV safety certificate



So would this incude full size vehicles???
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Well anything on Silver Lake in my opinion is an OFF ROAD VEHICLE since it has an ORV sticker. When I was 14 I had that same orv course and was told that I was allowed to drive my dads blazer as long as it was supervised by an adult, but that was 8 years ago.
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i did some more research and found this on the DNR website

Operation of Other ORVs

Children under 16 may operate other ORVs (trail bikes, for example) only when both of the following conditions are met.

* Operator is under visual supervision of an adult and
* Operator possesses a valid ORV safety certificate



So would this incude full size vehicles???

Pretty sure it specified "trail bikes" IE quads and Dirt bikes. There is NO place whatsoever that a minor can operate a passenger vehicle (Jeep, truck, Car) Without a Learners permit and Supervision, or an operators license. If you get a cocky cop, he can get you for backing your dads jeep down the driveway.
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like i said earlier (or think i said) i have heard it both ways .... this is rule 10 B on the DNR's silver lake page

(b) A parent or legal guardian of a child 12 years of age to less than 16 years of age shall not permit the child to operate an ORV unless the child is under direct visual supervision, from a distance of not more then 50 feet, of an adult and the child has in his or her immediate possession an ORV safety certificate issued by this state or a comparable ORV safety certificate issued under the authority of another state or a province of Canada.
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they open tomorrow i would call them and ask just to make sure but
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i got an e- mail from a guy saying no because S.L.S.D. has a rule called LUOD (Land Use Order of Director) and i have no idea what that means
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tried calling them but the call wont go through
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I'll see if I can help you guys out here.

Under Michigan law, a person can operate an ORV at ANY age, as long as they are ORV certified and under the direct visual supervision of an adult while operating..A pick-up truck or jeep is defined by Michigan law as an ORV when it is being used in a Scramble area or a Designated ORV Route..So,essentially, a youth could legally operate a Pick-Up truck/Jeep at any age on a Designated Route/Scramble area IF they have their ORV safety certificate AND are being watched by an adult while operating. I do NOT recommend that you allow this because you might possilbe be hit with a child endangerment charge IF something went wrong.

Here's the catch for SLSD!

The SLSD has what they call a LUOD or Land Use Order of Director.What this does is allow the Director of the MDNR to issue orders to implement land use rules for certain instances. In this case,for safety reasons, the DNR Director finds it necessary to implement a LUOD for SLSD for the use of ANY type of ATV/ORV use by any youth under the age of 12 years old.

I am looking into this as I do not beleive a LUOD can over rule a State Law.. They got away with this LUOD garbage when they gave the dirt bike riders their OWN exclusive 24'' trails to ride even though State Statue allready defined what a designated trail and forest trail is..

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