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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #1
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Default Long-Range shooters....McMillan stocks?

I know there's a few long-range shooters here, anyone upgrade their rifle with a McMillan stock? I know they are very high quality, but does anyone here that's not some super-ex-military international sniper championship match shooter have some real world before and after impressions of the McMillan stocks on a garden-variety bolt-action rifle? Was it worth the $$ and the wait?

After blasting 20oz. bottles at just over 1/4 mile (450yds) last weekend with my .270 I'm really itching to upgrade my .308 into a 600+ shooter.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:41 PM   #2
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I built several long range rifles, And you would be better off putting the money into a barrel and a cheaper full floating stock. Dont get me wrong mcmillans are awsome but thats not what makes the firearm that much more accurate, What kind of 308 are you doing up? My savage I built shoots .38 inch groups at 100 yards with handload ammo.

Can I come shooting with you theres no were to shoot that far down here by detroit.

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I am by no way a long range shooter yet, but in progress of building a Stevens 200 .308 looking at getting out to 700-800 yards. A good stock definitely affects shots, but I am leaning more towards the Choate tactical stock with an adjustable cheek piece. It is what, about 1/3 of the price by the time you add on all the options for the McMillan, and its doesn't have a 6-7 month wait time?

So what I guess I am saying is...I have no personal experience with either but I am opting for the Choate!
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Old March 20th, 2009, 12:23 PM   #4
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Choate varmit stock is on that rifle. The things in a rifle stock that wil affect accuracy are fit to the shooter, No contact what so ever with the barrel. And a glass bedded action. Last time I checked choate does not make a stock for the stevens rifle the bolt spacing is different between the new stevens rifles and the older savages. With a lot of work it will fit though found that out the hard way.
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I know that is the varmit or what seems to be the ultimate sniper stock. They have a tactical stock that looks very similar to the A5 minus the adjustable cheek piece. But that is easily remedied with a Kerstan add-on. And yes the tactical stock does fit the stevens rifles, but you have to make sure you get the stocks for the short action savages. The tactical stock you can get setup for a detachable magazine as well, from SSS you can get a high capacity mag that fits 9 rounds.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 02:34 PM   #6
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link to stock for savage????
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choate + savage = affordable long range rifle. McMillan's are expensive and you might have a wait. I have a place near ludington where we can shoot out to 800 yards, if anyone is interested.
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choate + savage = affordable long range rifle.
Giving out all the secrets Steveo...

Here's a link to the stock. It say Savage, but trust me there's hundreds of guys that have put both this stock, and the varmit/ultimate sniper stock on Steven's guns
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Giving out all the secrets Steveo...

Here's a link to the stock. It say Savage, but trust me there's hundreds of guys that have put both this stock, and the varmit/ultimate sniper stock on Steven's guns
what is the difference between a stevens 200 and a savage110?
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Both my current long-range guns are Remington 700's. I like them and will probably stick with Remingtons for quite some time.

The .270 is a mostly box-stock Sendero with a Timney trigger, factory HS Prec. stock, and a Ziess Conquest 3-9X40. It also has a hand lapped barrel (by the P.O.). Consistantly shoots 1/4-1/2 MOA with hand loads when the shooter is on his A-game. I also have an assembled Rem 700 in .308, it's an early 60's 6-digit action with clip slots, attatched to an early 90's .308 Varmint barrel in a crappy SPS stock and BDL bottom metal. It had a Leupold 3-9 on it and shot 1/4-3/8 MOA once we got the stock bedded right, but the SPS just feels cheesy. I sold the scope and have my eye on a Leupold Mark 4 16x or 8.5-20 and I'm really leaning towards the McMillan A5 for it, but I need a little more convincing. I will research the finer Choate options.
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Come on now.....long range with a 308 = 1000 to 2000 yds

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Come on now.....long range with a 308 = 1000 to 2000 yds

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Exactly... I can do 600 yards with my box stock lever action .308 and the right scope and handloads. Wouldn't be easy, but it could be done.
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what is the difference between a stevens 200 and a savage110?
Everything is the same except the Stevens does NOT come with the acutrigger. Other than that everything is pretty much identical.
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Everything is the same except the Stevens does NOT come with the acutrigger. Other than that everything is pretty much identical.
exactly.
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only prob with the stock in the link i dont have detachable mag for savage is there a conversion?
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If anyone here goes to build a savage I have the barrel wrench and go, no go gauges for .308.

Several of the long range shooters that I know prefer the savage type action over remington because you can create such tight head spacing since the barrel threaded.
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only prob with the stock in the link i dont have detachable mag for savage is there a conversion?
Yes go to sharpshootersupply.com I think it is. They only specialize in Savage/Stevens guns and you can get thee conversion for a 9rnd mag
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If anyone here goes to build a savage I have the barrel wrench and go, no go gauges for .308.

Several of the long range shooters that I know prefer the savage type action over remington because you can create such tight head spacing since the barrel threaded.
Hmm....my Remington barrel is threaded, when I got it, it was just a barreled action, obviously assembled, with no information. We checked the headspace VERY carefully, had to trim a bit off the barrel to tighten it up, and even then, were VERY cautious firing the first few times.

I'm sure the gun is capable of 1000+ right now, but the shooter is not, I only really got into this about a year ago, before I bought my .270 the longest shot I ever took was at a deer at 75-ish yards.

I took the .270 out again this weekend, but with warm weather the snowpile we layed out on to shoot 450 was melted too low to get a good sight line, so we ended up shooting at 300 yds. Gusty wind conditions complicated things, no chance of putting good groups on paper, but we still managed to blow up a lot of stuff. My favorite shot of the day was hitting a pepper shaker at 300yds with 4 clicks (6" at 300) of windage dialed in.
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check out these videos
Nice.

Search on YouTube for a clown that goes by "bushler" or something like that. Some crazy-long shots, but his barrel break-in proceedure is the best.
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