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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:46 PM   #1
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ok so i found this absolutely beautiful car at a dealer. its a 35th anniversary SS camaro. car i've always wanted. well they want 29,xxx for the car. when i ran it through KBB it says 15-17,xxx. how can i go about getting the dealer to give me that car for KBB's price?
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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:47 PM   #2
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walk in there with a bag of cash. i would print the thing off of that site and take it in there.
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if you come across a dealer selling a car for 200% more then other people in this economy, I say don't visit that car dealer.

There is a BAD ASS WS-6 for sale in the vehicles for sale section here for $10k.
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Even KBB is way over priced...look at NADA clean trade in value that's what it is worth.
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There is a BAD ASS WS-6 for sale in the vehicles for sale section here for $10k.
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also, since camaros are gay

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=85370
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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:54 PM   #7
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There is a BAD ASS WS-6 for sale in the vehicles for sale section here for $10k.
And ditto on the Trans Am WS6 that ride is the shit right there...if I had 10k I would be on it like a fat chick on a pizza!!!
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Old March 8th, 2009, 06:55 PM   #8
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Even KBB is way over priced...look at NADA clean trade in value that's what it is worth.
Uhm, trade in, and retail, arent the same thing...
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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:08 PM   #9
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Uhm, trade in, and retail, arent the same thing...
no, they are not
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Uhm, trade in, and retail, arent the same thing...
Ummm no shit? But you never pay book retail for a vehicle, try to get it as close to the trade in value as you can. Example...The vehicle we just bought clean retail $5100, clean trade in $3200. We ended up paying $3500...that was a privite party seller though. Dealers want to squeeze ya for every penny. Just try to find a happy price between trade in and retail value.
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This camaro is priced right.
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/1060839690.html
http://www.nadaguides.com/usedcars.a...da=-1&mi=86000
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Ummm no shit? But you never pay book retail for a vehicle, try to get it as close to the trade in value as you can. Example...The vehicle we just bought clean retail $5100, clean trade in $3200. We ended up paying $3500...that was a privite party seller though. Dealers want to squeeze ya for every penny. Just try to find a happy price between trade in and retail value.
you are the best used car buyer evar!
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you are the best used car buyer evar!
Well I guess since I have owned well over 100 cars in my life I know a little something about what to look for. I am not the best used car buyer ever but I dont let people take advantage of me and I do my homework before making a purchase!
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It an F-body, keep looking until you find one, they are like assholes everyone has one.


You aren't trying to find a Mint Austin Allegro Estate in the US.
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I spent the last 6 weeks shopping used certified cars at every dealer from Troy to Detroit.

Walked in wanting to pay cash. Ya know how much the dealers are willing to knock of used cars right now ? The best I could get out of one was 200.00 off. Yeah I said 200 bucks. If one more of them scumbags gave me the used cars are out selling new cars 3 to 1 speach I was gonna puke. By the way I told em all to pound sand.
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Well I guess since I have owned well over 100 cars in my life I know a little something about what to look for. I am not the best used car buyer ever but I dont let people take advantage of me and I do my homework before making a purchase!
yup, 100+ cars, you are god.
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ok so i found this absolutely beautiful car at a dealer. its a 35th anniversary SS camaro. car i've always wanted. well they want 29,xxx for the car. when i ran it through KBB it says 15-17,xxx. how can i go about getting the dealer to give me that car for KBB's price?
kbb dosent buy cars and with the ever changing economy it is not accurate on alot of vechicles. if they are asking 29k for the car and you come in and offer them 15k your most likely going to be laughed at. i buy and sell cars and powersports products for a living and as a hobby. if they are asking 29k they paid more than 15k for the car, and i could'nt imagine any newer ss camaro being worth 17k in this economy or anywhere near 29k, you can find low mileage c5 corvettes for 17k now. i'd keep looking just my .02
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I spent the last 6 weeks shopping used certified cars at every dealer from Troy to Detroit.

Walked in wanting to pay cash. Ya know how much the dealers are willing to knock of used cars right now ? The best I could get out of one was 200.00 off. Yeah I said 200 bucks. If one more of them scumbags gave me the used cars are out selling new cars 3 to 1 speach I was gonna puke. By the way I told em all to pound sand.
It's ridiculous what dealers are thinking used cars are worth right now....they act like they are gold.
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yup, 100+ cars, you are god.
sounds like he doesn't know what to look for in a car if he has owned 100+....I think if he knew what to look for the cars would last alot longer
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I spent the last 6 weeks shopping used certified cars at every dealer from Troy to Detroit.

Walked in wanting to pay cash. Ya know how much the dealers are willing to knock of used cars right now ? The best I could get out of one was 200.00 off. Yeah I said 200 bucks. If one more of them scumbags gave me the used cars are out selling new cars 3 to 1 speach I was gonna puke. By the way I told em all to pound sand.
used is selling 10 to 1 for me personally. no one wants new and *alot of people are paying over retail on used, and wont even look at new vechicles. in the last 3 months, even at all the auctions i attend, dealers are almost paying nada retail on used vechicles, they are telling you the truth. it sucks as a dealer because im stuck with alot of new product on my floorplan, and i have to pay top dollar for used that i would'nt normally buy.
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