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Old May 30th, 2006, 10:30 PM   #81
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Oh yeah, Wissenschaftler is now in charge of this site.

Anybody who comes out of the gate like that needs a site.


Its yours man, Your the only admin now.
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Old May 30th, 2006, 10:57 PM   #82
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I just read the site on the tightrope business. All good stuff too. Knowing how it works is one thing.....doing it is quite another story.

I thought someone might find my (too-long) missive interesting/useful; it was kindly intended.

My apologies, ClarkstonC., I didn't mean to horn in.

I'll bow out.
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Old May 30th, 2006, 11:00 PM   #83
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My apologies, ClarkstonC., I didn't mean to horn in.

I'll bow out.
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no, you rock.

I was being serious.

And I will give you 5 dollars every time you prove Jesus wrong on tightrope walking math.
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Old May 31st, 2006, 06:22 AM   #84
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Quick Question.

What can you safely use to clean a recovery strap? I jut got a "new" tree strap and it is filthy, something like Simple Green maybe?
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I lay mine out flat on the concrete drivway and rinse it with a garden hose nozzle.... It gets quite clean from that and the garden hose pressure....

Never use a power washer on a strap...

I have heard about the washing machine but have never tried it for fear of it getting under the agitator and getting damaged. Not that I have any proof that this will happen... just a fear
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Old May 31st, 2006, 08:23 AM   #85
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I put it in the washing machine yesterday, worked great.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 06:15 PM   #86
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this should be stickied somewhere.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 06:33 PM   #87
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great post g-man//////if all people would use common sence even on the little thing , it might save a life...

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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #88
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Never use a power washer on a strap...
Can you explain, I usually power wash the mud off.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:18 PM   #89
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i like this thread its nice to see the safe ways to pull a truck out now. thanx
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:23 PM   #90
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Can you explain, I usually power wash the mud off.
Powerwashers generate enough force they can damage the nylon threads.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:55 PM   #91
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one thing I didn't see here (might have missed) is to never pull on a trailer ball either

last year at the dunes Tonka was stuck pretty bad, the only guy willing to pull him out insisted on using the ball, I said a couple things about not doing it, walked away, and before I knew it I heard a load bang, the ball came off and hit the cab of Tonka's truck, luckily it hit right at the top on the edge and droped ingto the bed of the truck... and this was the ball the guy was 100% possitive was the straongest thing he had to pull on,
Yeah, He told me he was using the reciever pin. I looked back, then ducked down the second that ball came into sight. I would have gladly paid for a tow truck without trying the pull had I known he wouldnt listen.

Always check your recovery attachments yourself !
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:59 PM   #92
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Okay... I want to take a step toward safety using my winch.

I'm thinking about changing my steel cable to an AmSteel Synthetic line. I have a Warn 9000i and thinking I should go with 3/8 line or is 5/16 alright (almost $100.00 more)?

Does anyone know if I can fit 125' of synthetic line or would I lose some footage by going with synthetic (current steel line is 125')?
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Old June 19th, 2006, 08:29 PM   #94
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Okay... I want to take a step toward safety using my winch.

I'm thinking about changing my steel cable to an AmSteel Synthetic line. I have a Warn 9000i and thinking I should go with 3/8 line or is 5/16 alright (almost $100.00 more)?

Does anyone know if I can fit 125' of synthetic line or would I lose some footage by going with synthetic (current steel line is 125')?
Look up on there site and it will tell you the rating for there different size lines . From experience you can put more synthetic rope on a spool then you can wire rope . So if you had 125 of wire you can put 140 -250 ' or synthetic . It spools up much nicer , does not damage its self when it cross's over its self . make sure to run a haws aluminum fairlead with synthetic rope .

I have broke synthetic too , i can attest to that fact it does not fly like wire . the 2 brokens ends were less then 5' apart when it broke .
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Look up on there site and it will tell you the rating for there different size lines . From experience you can put more synthetic rope on a spool then you can wire rope . So if you had 125 of wire you can put 140 -250 ' or synthetic . It spools up much nicer , does not damage its self when it cross's over its self . make sure to run a haws aluminum fairlead with synthetic rope .

I have broke synthetic too , i can attest to that fact it does not fly like wire . the 2 brokens ends were less then 5' apart when it broke .

I'll check with Warn tomorrow for lengths. I'm thinking 125' is more than enough... <shrug>

AmSteel's 5/16" rope is rated for a minimum of 12,300 lbs. while 3/8" is 18,400 lbs. I haven't really shopped around for synthetic lines.... I saw this in Quadratech's magazine.

I'll have a roller fairlead for sale soon when I switch over to synthetic.
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Just read the whole thread lots of good info. Lots to think about. Does anyone have info/links to share on creating solid recovery points? I've got some 10,000 lb tow hooks bolted to the frame of a fullsize dodge with 1/2" grade 8 bolts-after reading this it seems to be a fairly dangerous setup. What about those shackles that fit in a 2" receiver hitch? I see these all over the place but how safe are they?
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Just read the whole thread lots of good info. Lots to think about. Does anyone have info/links to share on creating solid recovery points? I've got some 10,000 lb tow hooks bolted to the frame of a fullsize dodge with 1/2" grade 8 bolts-after reading this it seems to be a fairly dangerous setup. What about those shackles that fit in a 2" receiver hitch? I see these all over the place but how safe are they?
First off id like to say any recovery is dangerous . Keep kids and adults out of the way . There is no need to have every one close to watch .

Your hooks with grade 8 bolts sound like a resonable set up .

your question on the reciever set up is also a resonable safe set up . There is all ways the question of how well is the reciever hook to the truck its self . all the bolts been put in ? what grade bolts ?

It is unresonable to think you could get all them answers before pulling on some one . There for use good judgment , it if is a rusted out hulk , assume its dangerous and take precautions .
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Old November 24th, 2006, 09:29 PM   #98
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Just found this post today, great info.
I'd like to continue on about cleaning straps if I could.

When I was in the Army, our practice was to never use water, esp. with soap to clean tow straps, ratchet straps or rope -ever. The only time these items were allowed to get wet was in use, and we took great strides to dry them as quicky as possible. I spent many extra hours as a private bablysitting wet rope while it dried. After it dried we took a soft brush and cleaned it off as good as possible. That was the only way we were instructed to clean. We also took great strides to never step on, drag or nick rope/straps etc. in any way. Theory being, as Grandman states, any wear to that piece of equipment hurts its working ability in some way.

Through my experience, however, I never read, or even came across a manual that covered this topic. I still have to go back and read Bella Vista's article, but I have never read anything, military or civilian, on the topic of cleaning straps. I have several off-road books and videos but none touch on this.

I've seen old straps break, very scary, never seen a new one break. Coincidence or good thing for us wheelers to know? Is there a time to retire a "good" strap? It may not be frayed but is it dry rotted?

Any incite or good links would be much appreciated.

Thanks for the post G-man. I am proud to have learned from your knowledge first hand on the trails (where it matters!)
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Old December 25th, 2006, 10:46 PM   #99
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Just found this thread today great topic as I'm new all things trail/stuck. But I did just get a new strap (gift) it came from Rokmen 2"x30' w/32,000lb strength, came with two 4 3/4ton shackles. See link if interested.

http://www.rokmen.com/products/recov...ry_straps.html
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Old June 4th, 2007, 02:59 PM   #100
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what about tow rops? i have seen them on cement trucks and rednecks using them at mud bogs.. any info?

also when winching if u dont have a towl or somthing to use for a weigh is it alright to put a tow strap over it? that what i normal use
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