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Old February 9th, 2009, 12:11 PM   #21
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but whats the issue, you don't like driving 64 when towing? Or you want to go slower?
i'd rather go slower but there's no power because it drops into the 2nd od
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sweet spot for my 5.3 with od on is about 75 but it shifts fairly often.
3rd gear can hold as slow as 50-55 mph with out exessive shifting.

I got 9-11 mpg towing my jeep, but I usually had the cruise set at 80-85 in 3rd gear, so the motor was spinning a lot.

Towing the boat I get a few more mpg's but the boat is lighter and I leave it in OD.

Power will be decent and probably comparable to your wj once you consider the taho is heavier.

As for sway and sagging the airbags are your best bet as already mentioned.
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well, sounds like i'll get it, and see how it sags, and if it sags, airbags it is..

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Toyota wont tow it???.......Go figure :)
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Why? 70 is illegal in MI pulling a tandem.

WD hitch > Airbags.

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Since you never leave michigan and don't have to worry about getting through the mountains to say Jellico/Tellico/Windrock I think you'll be plenty happy with it.
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Most vehicles have a sweet spot for towing. My 2500HD varies depending on the load but pulls well between 65-70 mph. I would recommend the WDH towing all trailers with vehicle loads on a half ton setup. Bags help but they do come with their own sets of issues depending on the load placed on them, but they generally work well.
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Not sure on the newer Tahoe's kelly, but my '95 tows like a dream. Thru the mountains towing the CJ last year ran at 70+ with the cruise set. Got about 15 - 16 MPG on the trip.

Like the Tahoe style rigs over a pickup for the storage setup as well.
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257.627 Speed limitations.
Sec. 627. (1) A person driving a vehicle on a highway shall drive at a careful and prudent speed not greater than nor less than is reasonable and proper, having due regard to the traffic, surface, and width of the highway and of any other condition then existing. A person shall not drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than that which will permit a stop within the assured, clear distance ahead.
(2) Subject to subsection (1) and except in those instances where a lower speed is specified in this chapter, it is prima facie lawful for the driver of a vehicle to drive at a speed not exceeding the following, except when this speed would be unsafe:
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(5) A person driving a passenger vehicle drawing another vehicle or trailer shall not exceed a speed of 55 miles per hour, unless the vehicle or trailer has 2 wheels or less and does not exceed the combined weight of 750 pounds for the vehicle or trailer and load, or a trailer coach of not more than 26 feet in length with brakes on each wheel and attached to the passenger vehicle with an equalizing or stabilizing coupling unit.
...(8) The maximum rates of speeds allowed pursuant to this section are subject to the maximum rate established pursuant to section 629b.



For us, you must follow the posted Truck Speeds.

Smaller single axles, and campers with two axles can go faster.


As for weight distributing vs airbags, weight distributing is better. Airbags simply add more load capacity to the springs. So unless you know what you are doing for tongue weight, you might unsafely be overloading your tires and rear axle, and making the front end of the truck light. WD hitchs transfer weight from the rear axle to the front axle, fixing both problems. If the WD hitch isn't enough, you probably are overloading the allowed tongue weight for the tow vehicle.

Thats not to say you can't also add airbags if you want. But just because you have airbags doesn't make those P-rated tires and semifloating axles into something better.
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Since you never leave michigan and don't have to worry about getting through the mountains to say Jellico/Tellico/Windrock I think you'll be plenty happy with it.
He'd be able to do that pull, just maybe not at 70 mph like our big blocks/diesels can do. We had half-tons pull Jeeps down to tellico in our club before, they made the trip without incedent. For those once a year pulls, I'd rather have the 1/2 ton ride the rest of the year.

....fun pulling up Jellico in the V10 at 70-ish, watching that temp gage go up and up... Had to help some mexicans that blew their head gaskets trying to pull a four-horse trailer with a 318 dodge...
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So the fix to the saggy ass while towing is air bags? I'll have to go look into a setup like that. I think hacksaw's denalli has air ride or something, and I'm not sure if that is why the bumper was on the ground.
Does it have the air ride system? Some of the Yuk's do. I have an 02 with air ride and love it for towing my trailer with the 5.3. I've had with and without and its is much nicer with.
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Kelly, why don't you use the toyota? I thought you bought a new tundra?
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He'd be able to do that pull, just maybe not at 70 mph like our big blocks/diesels can do. We had half-tons pull Jeeps down to tellico in our club before, they made the trip without incedent. For those once a year pulls, I'd rather have the 1/2 ton ride the rest of the year.

....fun pulling up Jellico in the V10 at 70-ish, watching that temp gage go up and up... Had to help some mexicans that blew their head gaskets trying to pull a four-horse trailer with a 318 dodge...
I agree he "could" do it. . . it would be slow going but he really don't have to worry about it
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well, sounds like i'll get it, and see how it sags, and if it sags, airbags it is..


Ha definately check it before you go buy the bags, Guy here at work was asking me about installing the bags for him on his new/used suburban. I told him to hook up camper and see how bad it sags first. as soon as he lowered the camper on it the compressor kicked in scared the shit out of him. Already had air, he didn't know about it.
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Not sure on the newer Tahoe's kelly, but my '95 tows like a dream. Thru the mountains towing the CJ last year ran at 70+ with the cruise set. Got about 15 - 16 MPG on the trip.

Like the Tahoe style rigs over a pickup for the storage setup as well.
I'd LOVE to see the gas receipts on that one.
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