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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:49 PM   #21
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Actually your wrong. If you own an older diesel in particular fords even up to date you should be putting a power service in it anyways(meaning year round). The D-max's you don't have to because they have a fuel and block heater. It's been colder than -5 and my buddies d-max will start every time. The older Gm's only have block heaters like yours does and premium fuel or not it will gell all day. Recommendation: Buy A D-MAX!
probably the dumbest thing i've read all day, thanks!
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Actually your wrong. If you own an older diesel in particular fords even up to date you should be putting a power service in it anyways(meaning year round). The D-max's you don't have to because they have a fuel and block heater. It's been colder than -5 and my buddies d-max will start every time. The older Gm's only have block heaters like yours does and premium fuel or not it will gell all day. Recommendation: Buy A D-MAX!
No thanks. I'll take a powerstroke or cummins over a duramax anyday.
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Actually your wrong. If you own an older diesel in particular fords even up to date you should be putting a power service in it anyways(meaning year round). The D-max's you don't have to because they have a fuel and block heater. It's been colder than -5 and my buddies d-max will start every time. The older Gm's only have block heaters like yours does and premium fuel or not it will gell all day. Recommendation: Buy A D-MAX!
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mine gelled up beginning of last week, got it to a buddies thawed it out and ran fine....been running power service (white bottle) ever since and no issues till this a.m., wife was gonna take it to work and she brought it back home cuz there was no power and was sputtering....thought there might be an issue when I heard it idleing this morning so I forwarned her.

should I be running the red bottle? (power service 911)
truck ran fine yesterday mind you all afternoon. its a cummins.
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mine gelled up beginning of last week, got it to a buddies thawed it out and ran fine....been running power service (white bottle) ever since and no issues till this a.m., wife was gonna take it to work and she brought it back home cuz there was no power and was sputtering....thought there might be an issue when I heard it idleing this morning so I forwarned her.

should I be running the red bottle? (power service 911)
truck ran fine yesterday mind you all afternoon. its a cummins.
My powerstroke has spit and sputtered and even stalled a couple times. I found that if I remote start it and let it run for 5 to 10 minutes I have no issues. if it only runs a minute or 2, I start having issues.
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oops ... 1/8

Thanks for the info, I'm glad everything is going to be alright.
1/8=.5/4
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Thanks, but most people want a truck.
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Old February 4th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #28
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Thanks, but most people want a truck.

another brilliant comment


yeah, because a d-max isn't a real truck

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not sure if the cummins is the same, but my d-max gelled up a couple weeks ago when it was -20*(before wind chill). it sat for 10 hours outside during a meeting and didn't want to start. I used the 911 and it finally fired up the next day. I now use the Power Service (standard stuff) in every tank for cold weather just in case. I don't think the 911 is suppose to be used as a regular additive. did you change the filter after it gelled the first time?

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1/4 = 2/8

Ran her down to 10/40 of a tank the other day.
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did you change the filter after it gelled the first time?
no, but I did change it today....guess that is kind of a requirement that i didnt know about.

changed the filter and it seems to be fine, I have been running powerservice (white bottle) since it gelled the first time, but that doesnt mean there wasnt still some gunk in the filter and water separator, that is why I changed it and ordered a new WS.
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My truck started sputtering and the low fuel light came on and when I pulled over it died. I waited and it started right back up.

I went to Napa and bought some additive and filled her fulll. I was dumb ass and only had 2/8th of a tank of gas . . . yes, I know I should have filled her up.


So what now. Will have I have future injector problems or any other issues do to this?

She ran fine on the way home tonight.


I own a 7.3L Powerstroke.
Pretty sure even more gas would cause bigger issues.

Was the 6/8 of the tank filled with diesel?
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Pretty sure even more gas would cause bigger issues.

Was the 6/8 of the tank filled with diesel?
yeah, something like that.
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yeah, because a d-max isn't a real truck
I've driven a lot of miles, while towing big a lot of those miles. I watch what people are using commercially. Very few are D-Max's. Very, very few. Most are Dodges, followed by a lot of Ford's, then once in a while a Chevy. Take it for what it is worth.
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probably cheaper to buy ;)
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probably the dumbest thing i've read all day, thanks!
It's good to see you came up with some very technical information.
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Thanks, but most people want a truck.
Most people want what there daddy brought them up to like. Every vehicle manufacter has design flaws such is tranny's with dodge's. I just prefer GMC probelms over ford or dodge.
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Most people want what there daddy brought them up to like. Every vehicle manufacter has design flaws such is tranny's with dodge's. I just prefer GMC probelms over ford or dodge.
Funny thing how Dodge's get ragged on about their tranny's still. The 3rd Gen Dodge's haven't been having those issues. Lots of 250k+ mile Dodges out there now with no issues.
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Actually your wrong. If you own an older diesel in particular fords even up to date you should be putting a power service in it anyways(meaning year round). The D-max's you don't have to because they have a fuel and block heater. It's been colder than -5 and my buddies d-max will start every time. The older Gm's only have block heaters like yours does and premium fuel or not it will gell all day. Recommendation: Buy A D-MAX!
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It's good to see you came up with some very technical information.

Every 7.3L IDI has a fuel heater in the fuel bowl located in the valley of the motor.
Every 7.3L powerstroke has a fuel heater in the fuel bowl located in the valley of the motor.
Every 7.3L IDI has a 110V block heater
95% of 7.3L powerstrokes have a 110V block heater, some Cali models did not.

Diesel fuel gells at the same temperature, regardless of what badge is on the truck. No OEM has heater in their fuel lines, which is where gelling first happens. Gelling generally doesn't start in the tank, since there is a larger amount of fuel (that is why they recommend not to leave a 1/3 tank or less in your truck when it is below 10F.

as far as the diesel service being used year round, that is to protect mechanical fuel pumps, such as the Ford IDI and Cummins. That is due to diesel fuel no longer having Sulfer which was a lubricant (much like lead was a lubricant in gas for a long time). No Ford truck built in the last 14 years needs additives, and even adding additives to the IDI motors have mixed results.
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run a pint ot trans fulid in it every few tanks works just as good as power plus it well keep inj clean and save $$$$$
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run a pint ot trans fulid in it every few tanks works just as good as power plus it well keep inj clean and save $$$$$
Will that keep it from gelling? Or just lube and clean?
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