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Old January 16th, 2009, 07:42 AM   #41
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For some information, check here, lots of good info:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/

I just redid my basement, and went with SV sound, down in Ohio for all my speakers:

http://www.svsound.com/

I don't know what your budget is, but I'm running a 7.1 off of a denon receiver, and for TV and Movies, the sound is great, music sounds really good, just won't rock the house down, but still some serious sound.
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Old January 16th, 2009, 07:46 AM   #42
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I won't post a link to his forum, but a gl4x4 member here owns a very large AVS forum to which I use on a daily basis now.. Not sure if its in the open that he owns it, so I'll let him link to it if he desires.
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First, you kinda in the wrong place...your in a 4x4 forum looking for advice on home audio. I'm sure you can get a few people in a audio forum to say how to lift your Jeep, but you would verify the sources by coming to a forum like this.

I'm in the process of re-doing my audio setup so I have been surfing audio websites. I can tell you one thing, they all say stay away from Bose..and I even have AM5's. Check this out - http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html - pretty much tells you why not to buy Bose, cliffnotes..they miss a whole bunch of frequencies. Klipsch seems to be recommended, along with some other brands Ive never heard of.
I realize this is a 4x4 site .........Since I'm a gearhead and not an audio geek and don't frequent audio sites I figured I'd ask people hear on thier experiences.........
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Thanks for all the replies and links! This info should help me out
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btw, if you decide to go with that onkyo 6100, let me know and I'll try to get you a discount at us appliance. I just did a big job for the owner's house, so he might be nice to me.
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Old January 16th, 2009, 08:25 AM   #46
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btw, if you decide to go with that onkyo 6100, let me know and I'll try to get you a discount at us appliance. I just did a big job for the owner's house, so he might be nice to me.
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Old January 16th, 2009, 08:49 AM   #47
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cc. you're right I haven't heard a 7.1 and for the average home theatre hobbyist it's probably really not worth heading in that direction - yet. as you said the sources aren't there yet.

note, I said hobbyst, not purist. *shrug*

the distinction I guess could also be illustrated by someone who puts a mild lift on their jeep and goes trail riding or through a couple of pits on a basically stock jeep with mild boltons, or mild fab work - vs someone who builds a pro tube chassis, and still takes it on those same trails, or same pits.

if you have money to burn, if you spend a SHITON of time in the dark watching movies, or if you like to brag about what you have then go for the obscene best. I would suggest however that if one is going that far, then they really should probably make sure that the rest of the environment is up to the task for a dedicated theatre environment.

if one is still running analog cable, or passing divx rips via vga cable then the money spent on that audio is sorta waste eh?

the question for the original poster needs to answer for himself, is what type of guy is he? I'd suggest that he's gotten the varied type of input, from a variety of types of guys, rather than just getting the high-end guys suggesting he mortgage the house for some sound which might happen if he were to pose the question as a newbie on a dedicated sound forum.
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if you have money to burn, if you spend a SHITON of time in the dark watching movies, or if you like to brag about what you have then go for the obscene best. I would suggest however that if one is going that far, then they really should probably make sure that the rest of the environment is up to the task for a dedicated theatre environment.

I agree 100%. But the links I have provided showing a couple HTIB are both under $600.00

I don't think that is spending a lot of money on a home theatre.
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Just go here
http://www.audioreview.com/reviewscrx.aspx

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cc. you're right I haven't heard a 7.1 and for the average home theatre hobbyist it's probably really not worth heading in that direction - yet. as you said the sources aren't there yet.

note, I said hobbyst, not purist. *shrug*

the distinction I guess could also be illustrated by someone who puts a mild lift on their jeep and goes trail riding or through a couple of pits on a basically stock jeep with mild boltons, or mild fab work - vs someone who builds a pro tube chassis, and still takes it on those same trails, or same pits.

if you have money to burn, if you spend a SHITON of time in the dark watching movies, or if you like to brag about what you have then go for the obscene best. I would suggest however that if one is going that far, then they really should probably make sure that the rest of the environment is up to the task for a dedicated theatre environment.

if one is still running analog cable, or passing divx rips via vga cable then the money spent on that audio is sorta waste eh?

the question for the original poster needs to answer for himself, is what type of guy is he? I'd suggest that he's gotten the varied type of input, from a variety of types of guys, rather than just getting the high-end guys suggesting he mortgage the house for some sound which might happen if he were to pose the question as a newbie on a dedicated sound forum.
Just a mediocre guy looking for a middle of the line setup. No need to be the "one-up" neighbor..........
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Old January 16th, 2009, 10:27 AM   #51
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I used to be in this business and for what it's worth I was good friends with one of the Bose reps. Now granted this was about 10 years ago but from what he said there entire company was based on marketing. They have many different size speakers but in each size they only have 1 speaker no matter what price range you bought. So if you bought the entry level speakers you were actually getting the same speaker as the most expensive one. I did take a couple of the speakers apart and I found this to be true. I don't know if things are still the same but that was a pretty shitty thing to do. He said they couldn't get in trouble for false advertising because they would say that "speaker A" had this and this option and "speaker B" had this this this and that. They never said that "speaker A" didn't have those options too.

IMHO buy from a store that will take the system back without a restocking fee. Every system will sound different when you get it into your house and everyone hears things at a different level and what may sound good to one may not sound good to another. I for one love McIntosh. Very expensive but the sound quality is 2nd to none in my opinion.
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Old January 16th, 2009, 10:34 AM   #52
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I used to be in this business and for what it's worth I was good friends with one of the Bose reps. Now granted this was about 10 years ago but from what he said there entire company was based on marketing. They have many different size speakers but in each size they only have 1 speaker no matter what price range you bought. So if you bought the entry level speakers you were actually getting the same speaker as the most expensive one. I did take a couple of the speakers apart and I found this to be true. I don't know if things are still the same but that was a pretty shitty thing to do. He said they couldn't get in trouble for false advertising because they would say that "speaker A" had this and this option and "speaker B" had this this this and that. They never said that "speaker A" didn't have those options too.

IMHO buy from a store that will take the system back without a restocking fee. Every system will sound different when you get it into your house and everyone hears things at a different level and what may sound good to one may not sound good to another. I for one love McIntosh. Very expensive but the sound quality is 2nd to none in my opinion.

That's kinda funny, but I can see their logic in doing so. I have the accoustmass 10 series. At the time they had a 5, 10, and I believe a 20 that basically all came with the accoustmass sub/controller and an amount of speaker cubes. I only paid $250 for the set at the refurb store and I think retail was close to $1000. I have a shitty room to deal with though so it fits my needs. FWIW, the room is 12x20 with vaulted ceiling and the only way to arrange the room for viewing is across the 12 foot distance on one half of the room with the vaulted ceiling pitched perpendicular to the viewing angle. You can imagine the effort at getting somewhat reasonable sound angles.
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I agree 100%. But the links I have provided showing a couple HTIB are both under $600.00

I don't think that is spending a lot of money on a home theatre.
agreed it's not a lot. considering I went a year watching movies/cable through the TV's native speakers, I am quite happy with my <$200 complete 1000W 5.1 HTIB

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one thing that wasn't brought up, and probably will be eventually is a place to get cables. based on someone's suggestion earlier in the year I went with monoprice and couldn't be happier with that decision.

it's probably worthwhile for one of the more audiophilliac types to chime in to determine if it's still a good place/price/quality however.
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http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speak...4_4282crx.aspx




I have also went to a high-end home audio/video store and listened to a $50,000 5.1 surround and left feeling shorted. Yeah they sounded nice and they got pretty loud at the max volume, but I honestly don't think I would be able to tell a ton of difference between that and my $1,300 system at home. If you're not an audiophile with a trained ear and an obsession, then don't waste your money.

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agreed it's not a lot. considering I went a year watching movies/cable through the TV's native speakers, I am quite happy with my <$200 complete 1000W 5.1 HTIB

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one thing that wasn't brought up, and probably will be eventually is a place to get cables. based on someone's suggestion earlier in the year I went with monoprice and couldn't be happier with that decision.

it's probably worthwhile for one of the more audiophilliac types to chime in to determine if it's still a good place/price/quality however.
Good point!
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My new setup in my basement might do you some good. I have a similar onkyo receiver (onkyo 806) and four onkyo rears with KEF's up front and an active klipsch 12" sub.

That system without the KEF's on will give you a pretty close sound to what you would experience with that 6100 setup, if you want to listen to it.
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Get married already you have way too much play money
It's not the marriage........It's the kids that drain the money......
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It's not the marriage........It's the kids that drain the money......
Glad you got your wife trained up good, mine suddenly quit cooking and took up a liking for crablegs,steak, and diamonds as soon as she had the papers
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I'm pretty happy with my 3 year old 5.1 LG system, wired with monster cable, from Sears for under $350
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